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c_note · 06-11-2007, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RW#30

Are we going to resign Dixon? I am not sure Toronto willing to go along this trade.

That post was from almost a year ago, if you noticed.

It's_GO_Time · 06-11-2007, 11:05 PM

I'm with Sug on this, I still see potential with TO on the Blazers. Travis could fit in with this team . . . he is young, athletic, brings energy, has good character (even if a little ditsy), has shown improvement on the defensive side (help defense) and can grow with core of the team.

I think the tough decision with Travis is he is on the bubble of this trimming of the roster that has been discussed (if management is trimming the roster). With the Blazers holding so many #2 draft picks and KP at the helm, I wonder if Pritchard can find a player equal or better player than Travis.

The big question is what is Travis' value in the open market. I haven't seen any team or fans really talk about him, but I figure he has to be on some GMs radar screen.

I hope we resign him . . . otherwise what am I going to do with a pair of TO signed Adidas Blazer Shoes

Sug · 04-17-2008, 10:59 PM

If I get to update this thread for years to come I will be a happy man!

So how did he do this year? I am very happy with TO's progress this season, and I see him getting better next year. He clearly became a more efficent offensive player, I have included the advanced stats for basketball reference to show this. He added the 3-ball to his game this year, and was able to foul less. His blocks and steals went down, but he was certainly in more control on the defensive end this season. I also noticed that he was more under control on the offensive side, less charges(personal observation, no stat). The kid is only 23, which still blows my mind. I think you have to keep him, and let him grow. He is like a rose for Portland, he gets stronger every year.

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Season    Age  Tm  Lg   G GS   MP  FG  FGA  FG% 3P 3PA  3P%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
2003-04    19 POR NBA   8  0   19   3    7 .429  0   0        2   4 .500   2   2   4   1   1   0   1   1    8
2004-05    20 POR NBA  59  2  793 133  267 .498  4  10 .400  49  75 .653  40  81 121  35  30  40  39  77  319
2005-06    21 POR NBA  69 11 1153 162  368 .440 14  53 .264  62  89 .697  48 141 189  34  31  46  37 112  400
2006-07    22 POR NBA  67  1 1532 246  567 .434 10  37 .270 143 181 .790  65 152 217  52  61  74  66 150  645
2007-08    23 POR NBA  82  6 2186 417  963 .433 40 101 .396 218 294 .741  96 280 376 106  59  63 107 173 1092
Career            NBA 285 20 5683 961 2172 .442 68 201 .338 474 643 .737 251 656 907 228 182 223 250 513 2464

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Season    Age  Tm  Lg   G   MP  PER  TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% Usg% ORtg DRtg OWS  DWS WS LS  WSAA
2003-04    19 POR NBA   8   19 16.4 .457 .429 12.6 12.4 12.5  9.3  2.9  0.0 10.2 24.3   98  104 0.0  0.1  0  0   0.0
2004-05    20 POR NBA  59  793 15.4 .532 .506  6.1 11.3  8.8  7.8  2.0  3.6 11.5 19.6  105  107 1.3  2.1  3  6  -1.5
2005-06    21 POR NBA  69 1153 12.9 .491 .459  4.9 14.9  9.9  5.2  1.5  3.0  8.3 18.3  101  111 1.3  2.3  4 10  -3.0
2006-07    22 POR NBA  67 1532 15.3 .499 .443  5.2 12.6  8.8  6.1  2.2  3.9  9.3 21.8  103  108 2.7  4.6  7 12  -2.5
2007-08    23 POR NBA  82 2186 15.7 .500 .454  5.2 15.0 10.1  8.9  1.5  2.2  8.9 26.0  102  107 2.7  7.6 10 20  -5.0
Career            NBA 285 5683 15.0 .502 .458  5.3 13.8  9.5  7.2  1.7  3.0  9.2 22.4  102  108 8.0 16.7 24 48 -12.0

Sambonius · 04-17-2008, 11:04 PM

I think he's a great candidate to be traded.

PapaG · 04-17-2008, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PapaG

I see him as on the verge now of being a decent back-up. He averaged just under 10 ppg with a block and a steal and he shoots FTs at 80%.

He will be a solid role player in the NBA. The question is if will be in Portland.

Wow, I think I'll listen more to this guy!

**Dan** · 04-17-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sug

So we have come to Travis Outlaw's fourth year in the NBA. On September 18th Travis will turn 22 years old, and at this point he has played 1967 minutes in the NBA to this point. To put that number in perspective, Jarrett Jack played 1597 minutes during his rookie campaign. I Outlaw's first season he logged a total of 19 minutes the entire season. This was followed up with only 793 minutes in his second season, Even Martell Webster logged 1064 minutes in his first season, while fellow high schooler Sebastian Telfair received 1330 during his rookie season.

This past season only Martell played less minutes than Outlaw out of those four players. So I am wondering, could we see something more from Outlaw this year? In terms of stats, Outlaw has been somewhat of an enigma.

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 Year Ag Tm  Lg     G   GS    MP    FG   FGA   3P  3PA    FT   FTA  ORB   DRB   TRB   AST  STL  BLK   TO   PF   PTS
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 2004 19 POR NBA    8    0    19     3     7    0    0     2     4    2     2     4     1    1    0    1    1     8 GL
 2005 20 POR NBA   59    2   793   133   267    4   10    49    75   40    81   121    35   30   40   39   77   319 GL
 2006 21 POR NBA   69   11  1155   162   368   14   53    62    89   48   141   189    34   31   46   37  112   400 GL
+---------------+----+----+-----+-----+-----+----+----+-----+-----+----+-----+-----+-----+----+----+----+----+-----+

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...outlatr01.html

There are a few signs of encouragement though. For instance his turnovers stayed almost the same with an additional 400 minutes of playing time. That is a good sign, but on a negative note his fouls ballooned. While his rebounding saw some growth, his offensive rebounding needs to get much better. The fact that his assists, steals, and blocks did not see much growth is a little disturbing as well.

Stepping away from the stats, as a season ticket holder I had the opportunity to watch Travis live many times. Over the three years I have seen a lot of growth in terms of his understanding of the game. I remember in his second year all he would do was stand in one spot on offense. Last season he started to move more, and he started to play some okay defense. This is the year, as they say, that Travis must put it together. His NBA career depends upon it. If there ever was an argument for the NBDL, Travis would be it. Imagine if Travis could have played his entire rookie season in the NBDL, that would have been great. So for now I have high hopes for Travis becomming a decent player, but it will be interesting to see how he handles the pressure of his first contract year. I don't think Travis is lazy, I don't think he is unathletic in any way shape or form. I just think he was immature for his age, but I hope that all changes as we start the 2006-2007 campaign. I think Travis is a very nice person, and if he can develop some competitive fire this year, he could be a nice piece of a team I belive can make a run at the playoffs.

Wow, I didn't know you were a member waaaaaaaaay back then.

MrJayremmie · 04-18-2008, 09:21 AM

He has a lot to work on, but he has made huge strides that i'm really happy with. To get rid of him would leave a huge hole for us. Imagine Rudy and Outlaw in the 2nd unit, with Joel being the clean up guy on defense... Awesome 2nd unit.

He needs to work on passing, and contributing without scoring. He needs to not just go iso every time he has it, but work within' the offense. If he cannot, then he will never be a starter unless Roy is injured for some offense in the first unit.

I really hope he is with us for a long time, he is a great backup and a big part of our team on and off the court.

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