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mediocre man · 08-22-2006, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RipCity9

Spin doctoring? Sounds like a reasonable point to me - harm can be done to him even though the police have not determined there was any wrongdoing.

Zach doesn't have anything close to a "good name"

1. Sucker punched Ruben Patterson and broke his eye socket while Patterson was being held by other players

2. Lied to police about his brother shooting someone, and was with his brother when it happened

3. Cited for street racing

4. Pulled over for suspicion of driving under the influence, heavy weed smell in the car

5. Smelled like weed at a Blazers Christmas ornament event for kids

6. Arrested as a youth for shoplifting

7. Arrested as a youth for battery

8. Arrested as a youth for possessing stolen property including guns, one of which he sold.

9. Like it or not but Zach and Qyntel Woods both had pit bulls, and I know for a fact....yes a fact that he was involved in all that dog fighting that went down. Not directly, but was involved.

Now please tell me again how the Portland police are doing harm to Randolph's "good name"?

Blazer Ringbearer · 08-22-2006, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiss_My_Darius

Those would be my first two choices on how to deal with the situation. But since I don't trust Zach's ability to use the computer or remote control, maybe he should try consulting with an attorney without "officially" retaining him/her.

Anyways, you obviously think the upside to not getting an attorney is not worth the risk involved in not getting an attorney. I view the legal system differently and think that if he has done absolutely nothing wrong, than the risk of not getting an attorney is not so tremendous.

Either way, as I'm following the story, law enforcement is going to be very challenged trying to put this case together . . . if there is even a case.

Riiight. If you had millions of dollars and your life as a free man at stake, you'd consult the internet?

That is bull****.

You'd hire an attorney.

There is no risk in getting appropriate legal counsel. Everyone besides you understands that it's what anyone would do in a situation where they could be charged with a crime - whether they did it or not.

It's_GO_Time · 08-22-2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Blazer Ringbearer

Riiight. If you had millions of dollars and your life as a free man at stake, you'd consult the internet?

That is bull****.

You'd hire an attorney.

There is no risk in getting appropriate legal counsel. Everyone besides you understands that it's what anyone would do in a situation where they could be charged with a crime - whether they did it or not.

A little upset there BR? I understand most (or all) posters here would hire an attorney, and I have said that under most circumstances, you should hire an attorney.

But it is my lone opinion, I guess, that in a situation where a public figure has done absolutely nothing wrong, there is no need to "officially" retain an attorney.

I just happen to be strongly on the side that you will not be charged and convicted for a crime you have not committed. What do you want me to do, change my view of the legal system to conform with what this board thinks?

BTW- Polly Glass' father was a person of interest in the murder of his daughter and he didn't get an attorney. If you didn't do anything wrong, it's not such a no brainer to get an attorney even if you are being investigated.

Fork · 08-22-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiss_My_Darius

But it is my lone opinion, I guess, that in a situation where a public figure has done absolutely nothing wrong, there is no need to "officially" retain an attorney.

Wow. That's naive.

I guess John and Patsy Ramsey didn't need a lawyer after their daughter was murdered?

Fork · 08-22-2006, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiss_My_Darius

BTW- Polly Glass' father was a person of interest in the murder of his daughter and he didn't get an attorney. If you didn't do anything wrong, it's not such a no brainer to get an attorney even if you are being investigated.

As to Mark Klass, he was interviewed and dismissed within a couple hours of the abduction. Not quite the same situation.

mediocre man · 08-22-2006, 10:11 AM

I had a friend back in high school whos family hired an attorney for him after his cousin was murdered. he did nothing, and was in fact playing basketball for the school when it happened. None the less he was told to hire one. The lawyer helped with things like reporters, to school itself, to law officialls asking questions. At no time was even considered a suspect, but still obtained an attorney

**sa1177** · 08-22-2006, 10:15 AM

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Lol so bitter and angry...

Hiring a attorney does of course make sense..but

Hiring the best criminal defense attorney in the city when you have been charged with absolutely nothing does look bad....

I also find it interesting that Housze seems to have quite a good reputation for negotiating plea bargains and deals with the D.A.

mediocre man · 08-22-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sa1177

Lol so bitter and angry...

Hiring a attorney does of course make sense..but

Hiring the best criminal defense attorney in the city when you have been charged with absolutely nothing does look bad....

I also find it interesting that Housze seems to have quite a good reputation for negotiating plea bargains and deals with the D.A.

You could also look at it like this. If you were a "person of interest" in any case and had the money Zach does wouldn't you hire who you thought was the best lawyer in the city? He has also represented other Blazers I believe, so Zach probably was familiar with him.

**sa1177** · 08-22-2006, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mediocre man

You could also look at it like this. If you were a "person of interest" in any case and had the money Zach does wouldn't you hire who you thought was the best lawyer in the city? He has also represented other Blazers I believe, so Zach probably was familiar with him.

I suppose so, if money wasn't really the issue. The point is the attorney he hired is a expert at defending people in criminal trials....just makes me think Zach is probably guilty of something that could possibly go to trial, court etc. Just my oppinion, i hope you are right that he is simply doing it because it's the best option available.

mediocre man · 08-22-2006, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sa1177

I suppose so, if money wasn't really the issue. The point is the attorney he hired is a expert at defending people in criminal trials....just makes me think Zach is probably guilty of something that could possibly go to trial, court etc. Just my oppinion, i hope you are right that he is simply doing it because it's the best option available.

Given Zach's past, which I posted earlier in the thread I tend to agree with you. I was just pointing out another reason he may have hired who he did. Sadly for Zach there will be many people, like myself, that given his past will assume he is guilty of something.

**sa1177** · 08-22-2006, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mediocre man

Given Zach's past, which I posted earlier in the thread I tend to agree with you. I was just pointing out another reason he may have hired who he did. Sadly for Zach there will be many people, like myself, that given his past will assume he is guilty of something.

Agreed..IMO he is just a dumb dumb imature kid. Therefore I generally assume he is going to make the wrong choice in difficult situations rather then the right one.

He's earned that honor in my mind.

Kmurph · 08-22-2006, 10:47 AM

The bottom line is...How many of these incidents or "near" incidents does Zach (or any player for that matter) have to get in before some of you realize he isn't worth the negativity he brings to this franchise???

I'd trade him away tomorrow...I just hope that he...once again...skates away from this incident unscathed...so then he actually COULD be traded...

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