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ebott · 09-21-2006, 04:05 PM

I've been a Zach appologist for basically his whole career. And as such I really expect that what Woman A says happened didn't. But if it did I'm gonna have to stop being a Zach appologist. Trying to get it on with a chick that's asleep is not cool.

It's_GO_Time · 09-21-2006, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ebott

I've been a Zach appologist for basically his whole career. And as such I really expect that what Woman A says happened didn't. But if it did I'm gonna have to stop being a Zach appologist. Trying to get it on with a chick that's asleep is not cool.

Yeah the idea of waking up to Zach trying to poke you in the behind is not a pleasant thought, is it?

trueorfalse · 09-21-2006, 09:39 PM

You are just envious that it was Zach who got to taste Loves man juice

HispanicCausinPanic · 09-21-2006, 09:44 PM

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You are just envious that it was Zach who got to taste Loves man juice

OOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKK?

handclap problematic · 09-21-2006, 10:04 PM

I was thinking about Canzano's moral highhorse, and had a strange thought.
I don't usually wish bad on people, and I really don't on Canano either, but I would be very very happy if he got into some kind of trouble. I am not talking about anything too serious either; possibly a DUI, or a misdemeanor charge of something or other. I think it would be quite hilarious.

Prunetang

**barfo** · 09-21-2006, 10:28 PM

Remind me never to have Canzano defend me.

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Originally Posted by Canzano

W e met in the back alley behind a Portland medical-laboratory building where she works full time as a technician earning $14.35 an hour. The alleged victim in the since-closed Zach Randolph sexual-assault criminal investigation arrived with red eyes, trembling lips and with her hands stuffed into the pockets of a brown corduroy jacket.

Works in a medical lab as a technician making $14.35/hr, wears a brown corduroy jacket. There's an alley behind the building. I guess Woman A's coworkers now know who she is.

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"I'm scared of retaliation; there are some thugs who would probably like to see bad things happen to me."

The alleged victim, a single mother, 26, said she sleeps with the lights on inside her apartment, and with a Louisville Slugger baseball bat resting against her pillow at night.

Thugs take note: there is a baseball bat near the bed. Coast is otherwise clear.

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On most nights, just before bedtime, she lies down with her mom on the floor of their apartment and they press the frog's hand and sing along to "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star," and they giggle until their sides ache.

On other nights, mom is out with Zach at strip clubs, or taking money to perform sex shows.

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Originally Posted by Canzano

The victim told me that she once attended a party with a friend in July at Randolph's Portland-area residence where she observed several women ingesting the drug Ecstasy and performing an "orgy" with two male guests in a back room at Randolph's residence.

And she was so horrified by this that a few weeks later she agreed to put on a sex show for Randolph?

bah.

barfo

Blazer Ringbearer · 09-22-2006, 06:10 AM

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to barfo again.

Sorry Barfo.

**crandc** · 09-22-2006, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by handclap problematic

I was thinking about Canzano's moral highhorse, and had a strange thought.
I don't usually wish bad on people, and I really don't on Canano either, but I would be very very happy if he got into some kind of trouble. I am not talking about anything too serious either; possibly a DUI, or a misdemeanor charge of something or other. I think it would be quite hilarious.

Prunetang

Not sure about a DUI, I mean, a lot of people (including my cousin) were killed by drunk drivers. Maybe if he was caught before he hurt anyone.
Prunetag, I kind of know what you mean, though. Something about self-righteous pontificators. I think that is why people were so gleeful about Bill O'Reilly's sexual harassment charges; this man who still tells the rest of us how immoral and permissive we are having telephone sex with an unwilling woman and mixing up falafels and loofahs.
And I remember Phyllis Schlafly saying virtuous women are not harassed and virtuous women are not raped. I would not wish rape on anyone, ever, no matter how loathsome, but I thought, well, maybe a bad scare...

Public Defender · 09-22-2006, 08:29 AM

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I find it kind of disturbing that the report was released at all- what is the point of releasing it, other than to embarrass Zach?

Also, how come everyone but Zach gets their name blacked out?

I believe that it's a public document, now. Not releasing it might have been illegal. You black out the names of people that are not already known to the public - in the case of victims that to protect their safety and privacy, in the case of participants/perpetrators, it's to avoid their being tried in the press. But with Zach, everyone knew already.

I'm not going to read the report myself, but I do have a question about it. If Randolph paid for "sex acts" - how is that different from "soliciting prostitution" (i.e. "paying for sex"). It sounds to me like what Zach did was very possibly illegal, not to mention pretty darn stupid for someone with his significnant public profile (and no, I'm not talking about the size of his head).

Ed O · 09-22-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Public Defender

I'm not going to read the report myself, but I do have a question about it. If Randolph paid for "sex acts" - how is that different from "soliciting prostitution" (i.e. "paying for sex"). It sounds to me like what Zach did was very possibly illegal, not to mention pretty darn stupid for someone with his significnant public profile (and no, I'm not talking about the size of his head).

He paid for a simulated sex show... for the women to simulate sex (not actually have it). "Woman B" claims (iirc) that it was for the two of them to have sex, but Zach wasn't forthcoming, and it seems that his position (probably from the lawyers) was that it was payment for simulation, rather than the real deal.

Another good reason for him not to have talked to the cops... if he had admitted to paying them to "get it on" or something, he probably would be charged at this point.

Ed O.

**sa1177** · 09-22-2006, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed O

He paid for a simulated sex show... for the women to simulate sex (not actually have it). "Woman B" claims (iirc) that it was for the two of them to have sex, but Zach wasn't forthcoming, and it seems that his position (probably from the lawyers) was that it was payment for simulation, rather than the real deal.

Another good reason for him not to have talked to the cops... if he had admitted to paying them to "get it on" or something, he probably would be charged at this point.

Ed O.

Ahh the nice spin doctoring of Mr. Housze...that man is a genius when it comes to this stuff. We all know Zbo wasn't paying $500 for a "simulated" show.

tlong · 09-22-2006, 01:02 PM

I love simulated sex.

Ed O · 09-22-2006, 01:09 PM

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We all know Zbo wasn't paying $500 for a "simulated" show.

Like hell we do.

$500 is such an insignificant portion of Randolph's income that he might be willing to pay it to get his car cleaned. Seeing two women simulate sex when it might result in more... you don't seriously think that him paying $500 for that is unrealistic, do you?

Ed O.

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