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09-23-2006, 09:57 PM
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Re: "Blazers will kick themselves for passing on [Morrison]"
I'm not sure the Blazers could have gotten Morrison. He was not available at #4, when the Blazers picked. If Charlotte wanted him, how were the Blazers going to get him? They used Tyrus Thomas to get LaMarcus Aldridge (a #4 for #2 swap), but that doesn't mean that the Bobcats were willing to part with Morrison for Thomas (or for Aldridge, for that matter).
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09-24-2006, 12:29 AM
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Re: "Blazers will kick themselves for passing on [Morrison]"
The theory is, we could have had Chicago take Morrison instead of Aldridge. The problem, however, is if Charlotte had taken Thomas at #3, we would have been up the creek.
It's just more "what if's" and "what could have been's"...
It's not the same as when we passed on MJ. We didn't pick at #2. We had someone else pick for us. There's no way for us to know if it would have worked out.
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09-24-2006, 02:46 AM
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Re: "Blazers will kick themselves for passing on [Morrison]"
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It would have been interesting to see what would develop had we selected Morrison and Roy. Those two coupled with Martell would have made for a huge battle for playing time unless Roy has the ability to play PG full time.
Also, getting rid of Zach would be that much tougher for us to stomach from a talent perspective had we not drafted Aldridge.
Overall, I'm not too worried about it considering the guys we picked up.
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These are great observations, especially considering how so much of the national media seems to think the most critical thing for the Blazers to do is to cut Zach and/or Darius loose. And, at least prior to this last draft, I think most people ("experts" and Blazers fans included) would've considered replacing Zach the much harder task -- the team's invested much more in him, financially and otherwise. Besides, good 3s are easier to come by than good 4s or 5s. But with Aldridge on board, if the Blazers decide they need to part with Zach, they can do so and take whatever the best package is without having to replace him on the floor. And given the other moves made draft-day and after, even if they move Zach tomorrow, Aldridge could still be a year away and Joel, "Big Cat", and Raef could hold the fort better than it was held all of last season.
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09-24-2006, 03:07 AM
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Re: "Blazers will kick themselves for passing on [Morrison]"
I think someday, us taking Aldridge over Morrison will be equivelant to when we took Bowie over Jordan...
Creaky old man knees on a 21 year old 7-footer is just the beginning.
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09-24-2006, 03:11 AM
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Re: "Blazers will kick themselves for passing on [Morrison]"
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It's too bad he didn't have the pleasure of covering the Las Vegas Summer League back in July. Of all the rookies there, Roy was far and away the most impressive.
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apart from the actual mvp right
i dont think blazers fans should be worried, roy and webster is a great foundation on the wings for this squad and picking up aldridge aswell was a huge bonus...
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09-24-2006, 03:20 AM
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Re: "Blazers will kick themselves for passing on [Morrison]"
I wanted the Blazers to draft Morrison too, but I'm still happy with what transpired on draft day, especially getting Brandon Roy. Ifs 'n' buts, candy 'n' nuts.
Won't really know until this time next year but I think Morrison will do well in Charlotte, but he isn't immediately going to turn around their fortunes right away.
The guy makes some good points maybe but can we really put a heck of a lot of weight on anything about these rookies until we see them in real games?
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09-24-2006, 09:21 AM
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Re: "Blazers will kick themselves for passing on [Morrison]"
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apart from the actual mvp right
i dont think blazers fans should be worried, roy and webster is a great foundation on the wings for this squad and picking up aldridge aswell was a huge bonus...
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I was at the Summer League and attended the Blazerd/Wolves game. Roy pretty much locked down Foye for three quarters leading to a 25 point lead. When the Blazers put all subs in for the fourth quarter Foye had a field day in garbage time. The people that were there know who actually won that match up. Good for Foye, he filled up the stat sheet in garbage time and because of that was given the MVP. It was pretty obvious who the MVP of that game was and to their team overall.
I am sure that Minny will get to see plenty of good things from him once he breaks through that crowded rotation. Just don't use that MVP as a basis for the future expectations. It could be fools gold.
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09-24-2006, 09:45 AM
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Re: "Blazers will kick themselves for passing on [Morrison]"
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I don't think someone who covers the Magic can down another team for their draft after the last two years of Orlando's draft. Vasquez over Granger, Redick over Brewer.
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Took the words outta my mouth. Roy fits well into what Nate wants.
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09-24-2006, 09:53 AM
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Re: "Blazers will kick themselves for passing on [Morrison]"
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apart from the actual mvp right ;)
i dont think blazers fans should be worried, roy and webster is a great foundation on the wings for this squad and picking up aldridge aswell was a huge bonus...
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I presume that you're a 'Wolves fan: are you happy with giving up on Roy for Foye? I find that fairly surprising: now you have Foye, McCants and James, all of whom are shoot first pass about third players. I really can't see Kevin Garnett happy with a backcourt like that. It reminds me of when Houston had Mobley and Francis, and Yao Ming was not happy. It seems to me that Minny would've been better served with a more all-round talent like Roy or Brewer (whom I would take over Morrison in a heartbeat).
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09-24-2006, 09:54 AM
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Re: "Blazers will kick themselves for passing on [Morrison]"
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I think someday, us taking Aldridge over Morrison will be equivelant to when we took Bowie over Jordan...
Creaky old man knees on a 21 year old 7-footer is just the beginning.
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Jordan could play defense, rebound and pass.
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09-24-2006, 09:58 AM
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Re: "Blazers will kick themselves for passing on [Morrison]"
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I think someday, us taking Aldridge over Morrison will be equivelant to when we took Bowie over Jordan...
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Because, of course, Morrison will go on to lead the league in scoring for about ten straight years, win six titles, be a perrennial on the all-defense team, and be widely recognized as the best player ever to play his position? I await with baited breath!
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1. Where's your source?
2. ...of what? A beautiful friendship?
3. And diabetes is what, exactly?
(For the record, I would rather we had Thomas or Brewer to go along with Roy, but until Morrison shows he's more than one dimensional, I'm more than happy we passed on him. What were his rebound and assist numbers in the Summer League he "dominated" by the way?)
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09-24-2006, 10:53 AM
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Re: "Blazers will kick themselves for passing on [Morrison]"
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I think someday, us taking Aldridge over Morrison will be equivelant to when we took Bowie over Jordan...
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You think that because you're overly biased in favor of Morrison.
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09-24-2006, 11:26 AM
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Re: "Blazers will kick themselves for passing on [Morrison]"
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The theory is, we could have had Chicago take Morrison instead of Aldridge. The problem, however, is if Charlotte had taken Thomas at #3, we would have been up the creek.
It's just more "what if's" and "what could have been's"...
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I follow you - but if the Bulls pick Morrison, and both Portland and Charlotte want him, then a behind-the-scenes bidding war starts. For all we know, that might have actually taken place before the draft, but didn't go well for the Blazers. I recall reading something from the Blazers to the effect that they "couldn't have gotten Morrison" but I don't remember it exactly.
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