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Blaze · 05-16-2003, 11:31 PM

With the ACC looking to add 3 teams, I believe the Pac 10 needs to follow suit and add some additional teams to keep up with the other major conferences in the country. I have heard a few ideas on 910 the Fan, but my idea is a little different than the ones they've proposed. Here is what I would do for football:
Add 2 teams - BYU and Utah. I chose these two because of the rivalry that already exists between them and these two schools have fairly decent football and men's bball programs.
Make a Pac 12 North and South (Ore., Wash., and Utah schools are the North.)
Division schools play each other - Total of 5 games
North and South schools play 3 games. For example - UO plays @ Cal, OSU hosts Stan., UO hosts UCLA, OSU @ USC.
This schedule gives teams 8 league games, leaving 3 for nonleague.
I would then have a Pac 12 championship game in the LA Coliseum on Championship Saturday-Early Dec.
This seems to be similiar to the SEC and Big 12 format, which I like.

This is only for football, not sure how the SEC and Big 12 do it for bball.

What are your thoughts? I know there are Pac 10 fans out there on this site.

Fork · 05-17-2003, 02:19 AM

I'd also like to see the PAC-10 become the PAC-12, and your divisions sound good to me...but I'm going to offer up a couple different teams.

Colorado and Colorado State. These two make us a MUCH tougher football conference, while hoops might be weakened a little.

BYU and Utah is the opposite. Tougher in hoops, weaker in football.

I'd rather see the PAC-12 be a powerhouse football conference...the basketball will always be among the best, with the great tradition of some of the PAC-10 schools.

Ed O · 05-17-2003, 11:43 AM

I don't see Colorado leaving the Big XII. They are in a great position in a conference that's been (unfortunately) superior to the PAC-10 in Football and Men's basketball the last few years.

A few years ago, there was talk of Colorado coming to the PAC-10, but I think that ship has sailed.

BYU and Utah seems to be a decent option... BYU HAS been a football power in the past, and if they got a chance to compete in an upper-echelon conference like the PAC-10, they could be back.

I'm not sure if Utah's the best second-choice, although they're not bad.

Fresno State has been pretty good in football recently, and they have (I believe) something of a rivalry with BYU since they're in the same conference.

Another interesting option would be Air Force. Definitely NOT a power in basketball, but in football they're pretty decent and they would add another Stanford-level academic institution.

Ed O.

Fork · 05-17-2003, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by <b>Ed O</b>!
Fresno State has been pretty good in football recently, and they have (I believe) something of a rivalry with BYU since they're in the same conference.

Another interesting option would be Air Force. Definitely NOT a power in basketball, but in football they're pretty decent and they would add another Stanford-level academic institution.

Ed O.

The only problem with Utah schools is a relatively small TV market. If Oregon and Washington schools are going to give up 1 game per year vs. the LA schools and bay area schools with their big time exposure and recruiting benefits, it's going to have to be a valuable substitution like Colorado/Colorado State. Fresno just doesn't cut the mustard either. San Diego State would be alright, but I'm not sure who they would come in with.

I doubt the pac-10 expands, unless they find themselves as the only major conference without 12 teams. We offered Texas at one point back in the 1980's. Texas and one of Texas A&M or Baylor or Texas Tech would be nice.

Ed O · 05-17-2003, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by <b>Fork</b>!

The only problem with Utah schools is a relatively small TV market.

I thought that BYU had a pretty good national following. Not exactly on the scale of Notre Dame, but there are more BYU followers across the country than there are, say, Ducks or Bears fans I bet.

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If Oregon and Washington schools are going to give up 1 game per year vs. the LA schools and bay area schools with their big time exposure and recruiting benefits, it's going to have to be a valuable substitution like Colorado/Colorado State.

I could see the Washington, Oregon and NoCal schools being in one division and the SoCal, Arizona and Utah schools being in another. I think that would make more sense travel-wise, although I confess I don't know the particulars of hubs and whatnot between the cities.

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I doubt the pac-10 expands, unless they find themselves as the only major conference without 12 teams. We offered Texas at one point back in the 1970's. Texas and Texas A&M would be a dream come true.

Again, that darned Big XII nabbed some schools that would look good in the PAC-10.

Assuming the ACC goes to 12, Pitt could EASILY jump off the sinking Big East ship and into the Big 10 (making it 12, since Penn State really makes it an 11-member conference now). I guess the Big East could try to nab a couple Conference-USA schools to gear back up, but if Pitt's serious about their football program the Big 10 would be tough to turn down.

That would means that the PAC-10 would be the only major conference still at ten schools, right?

Ed O.

ThomasG86 · 05-17-2003, 02:32 PM

I like the PAC-10 the way it is, but thats just me.

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