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10-18-2006, 09:08 AM
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Re: Notes and Views From the Rose Garden Tonight
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All I have to say is that Brandon Roy can penetrate to the hole better than any rookie I've seen.
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It is great to see you being positive and fair in your evaluation of Roy. We all know how much you wanted Ammo in Portland.
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10-18-2006, 09:19 AM
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Re: Notes and Views From the Rose Garden Tonight
The 1st quarter was one of the worst displays of Blazer basketball that I've ever seen! I almost left before the 2nd qtr....glad I didn't. It's clear to me that Brandon Roy is the best player on the team. I know people like Ed O are going to say that's ridiculous since he hasn't played in a regular season game, but it's obvious. The Blazers must focus on running the offense through him. He just knows what to do with the ball. He makes a great combination with Webster as he can drive and sucks the opponents' perimeter defenders in with him which allows kick-outs to Webster for 3's. You can tell they spend a lot of time working together. Zach is clearly much more healthy this year which is very encouraging. I really wasn't impressed with any of the other Blazers besides those three. Magloire was horrible and Dickau shouldn't even be in camp.
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10-18-2006, 10:00 AM
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Re: Notes and Views From the Rose Garden Tonight
mags is trade bait
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10-18-2006, 10:21 AM
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Re: Notes and Views From the Rose Garden Tonight
Roy with 9 rebounds? man, that'd be sweet if he turns into a Francis/Wells-type of strong-rebounding guard. if so, we should have a huge rebounding advantage on most nights.
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10-18-2006, 10:31 AM
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Re: Notes and Views From the Rose Garden Tonight
I don't agree about Martell, any time you get well over 20 points and 12 free throw attempts you are not just standing around at the perimeter yelling "I'm Open". Hell if he continues to shoot a high percentage and get that many free throws, he can pick his nose out there for all I care.
Overall my view is that I am way happy the team put up that many points and came back from the horrible first quarter, and Jack, Roy, Martell and Zbo lead that comeback, each of them being a critical part of the future, and all of them taking up the scoring load. IMO the only reason the Blazers lost the game was the NBA refs giving the young players hell with the whistle.
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10-18-2006, 10:55 AM
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Re: Notes and Views From the Rose Garden Tonight
Martell played the aggressive type game he needs to play in order to be an effective starter. He has the strength to draw fouls and finish and can convert from the line.
The offense ran much better through Jack/Roy/Webster than it did in the first and third quarters when Nate pushed the pick and roll and wanted the Blazers to pound the ball into the post. The Warriors were quicker and Dunleavy exposed Joel and Jamaal as incapable of defending him.
The Blazers did not pass the ball well and had a tendency to stand around on offense. Most of the scoring came on Zach post ups or Jack/Roy taking guys off the dribble.
Nate went with small lineups in the backcourt: Sergio and Dickau and Sergio/Jack for an extended time and the Blazers went down big each time. Travis played well as the back up 4, guarding Dunleavy. The Blazers should try Travis on AK47 on Thursday.
Zach was great on offense and poor on defense (what else is new?). The out of bounds play where Barnes passed it in and cut to the basket for a dunk was downright embarrassing.
By the way Joel and Jamaal played, I am ready to see Raef and LaMarcus at the 5. JP/JM were atrocious.
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10-18-2006, 11:15 AM
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I'd like to say that when you said the stuff about Brandon earlier this year, I thought you were a little off your rocker..but so far (granted, 2 games and summer league) he's showing that you were much closer to reality than I thought you were. Props to you and your kin.
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10-18-2006, 12:13 PM
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Re: Notes and Views From the Rose Garden Tonight
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Too bad he plays like crab bait.
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10-18-2006, 12:28 PM
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Re: Notes and Views From the Rose Garden Tonight
The one thing I have noticed about Roy is his ability to knife between a double team. He does an excellent job at seeing it coming and then knifing right in between the two players, which leaves them totally compromised.
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10-18-2006, 04:40 PM
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Re: Notes and Views From the Rose Garden Tonight
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Martell: His game reminds me of a glorified rec player. Now don't get me wrong, I like this kid and his shot a lot, but . . . he tends to stand around the 3 pt line waiting for a pass. If he gets off, you can see his confidence rise (like tonight), and he plays harder. But if he misses, he seems to mope. Waiting at the arc, figuratively yelling "I'm open!" is not NBA ball.
Who the heck is Hamilton? Guy played great tonight!
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Yeah thats Martell.
Hey Dale Ellis made a living off of it. He was even more one dimensional.
I remember Zendon Hamilton well. A highschool buddy of mine played with him at Saint Johns. Hamilton was poor mans Kelvin Cato. He was smaller softer and had less skills but he did finish his college career strong and I believe he was drafted. He has been a typical journeyman. He might have made 5 teams in 9 years since leaving school. With the way he ended his college career I wonder and hope he is having the same type of transformation. He went from a player I thought had no chance at making it to the NBA to a player who had played five years. Hopefully he will go from a player I never thought would be a solid NBA player to just that. He is already doing something I never saw him do in college and that’s appear to play hard.
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10-18-2006, 08:27 PM
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Re: Notes and Views From the Rose Garden Tonight
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I think it's a psychological thing. Kind of like reminding them he's still there, even if it's a goaltend. set the precident, that a shot blocker is still there regardless of whether or not they know it.
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I understand the theory, but I'm not sure every goaltend is on a shot that was actually going in the hoop. Its almost to the point where you know you could lob something up near the basket and know Joel will get you two points because he can't keep his hands off the ball.
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10-18-2006, 09:04 PM
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Re: Notes and Views From the Rose Garden Tonight
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The 1st quarter was one of the worst displays of Blazer basketball that I've ever seen! I almost left before the 2nd qtr....glad I didn't. It's clear to me that Brandon Roy is the best player on the team. I know people like Ed O are going to say that's ridiculous since he hasn't played in a regular season game, but it's obvious. The Blazers must focus on running the offense through him. He just knows what to do with the ball.
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Despite all the arguing I did with Schilly in the other thread, I hope you're right.
Thanks for the insights.
And Schilly, can we still be friends?
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