[MARIS61]

Originally Posted by Hap

viktor has started just over half of his games (58 out of 103). Ruben has started 188 out of 549.

Oops!

Oh well, if you've got 50% you've got about half.

I guess with Ruben he just SEEMED like he started because once he was on the court you immediately forgot about whichever "whatshisname" we were showcasing at the time.

[MARIS61]

Originally Posted by Redbeard

I can't remember ever being able to trust a Blazers team in the fourth quarter, but this team is as close as ever. Even Clyde, Terry, Kiki, and Cliff would still fall apart.

But never when The Duck was out there with them.

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Originally Posted by MARIS61

Wrong.

Both Ruben and Viktor have started far more games on the court than on the bench in their respective careers.

Both are better defenders than Detlef or Stacey ever were, also.

Stacey Augmon was a premier defender, and I would take him in his prime over Patterson any day, because he knew how to contribute to a team effort and leave it all on the floor, and not be a total asinine team cancer.

As for Ruben starting, the only places he has started are places where they are hurting so bad for a small forward that they have to use him as the starter. The same for Viktor. Viktor is a 3rd to 4th string guy now in Chicago, depending on matchups of the evening, and foul trouble. Both of those guys you mention are "Energy" guys. They are the type of players you bring off the bench to give you team energy when they have started slow or need a burst. Neither are starting quality SF.

As for Detlef Schrempf, nobody ever said he was a good defender. He could school all the guys listed above offensively though, any day of the week, any game, any time. 3 time all star, 2 time 6th man of the year. He would be an easy choice over all of the above mentioned for a SF spot if given the choice.