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**mgb** · 11-29-2006, 03:36 AM

I've felt we would win 35 all along and still think so. Hopefully we'll get better as the season goes along. A lot of our players showed up early to work together so I wasn't surprised about the fast start or that we wouldn't keep that pace early. I also don't see us having the nose dive we did at the end of the season last year because I think most of the players we have now will keep trying to get better even when we have no chance of making the playoffs.

Anyone hear Jack, I think it was Jack, after the game? When ask about the Pacers taking control late in the game Jack said they have been to the playoffs for a while now and knows what it takes and how to finish with a win in those circumstances. That's not exactly what he said but basically, and then he said we should be there in a few years.,,,,then quickly said by the end of the season.

Utherhimo · 11-29-2006, 03:40 AM

yeah webster is playing hurt

i predicted 30 to 35 wins thats where it seems to be headed, oden hasnt played a lick of college ball I will wait to see how he does agianst stronger computition before calling him the clear cut #1 draft pick. right now he is THE most over-hyped player in college right now.

Maybe roy's injury is a phantom injury like david robinson when the spurs got tim duncan, the blazers were doing too good so they sidelined roy for a while thus no surgery and the boot.

I am hoping we getting the number 5 slot which has a good chance of getting a top 3! If we get the number 1 we try to do a deal for the #2 plus another first rounder or something, if we cant get a good deal we just draft Durant and hope to swing a deal for a center later.

zagsfan20 · 11-29-2006, 04:00 AM

Haha...

All the Noah talk. The guys is so overrated its not even funny. I've been saying this since last year and a thing hasn't changed. He averaged like 15 and 8 in the tournament last year and happened to be a vibrant figure, who took in most the credit on a very good overall Florida team (who is loaded with pro's). He's a tad bit better version of Anderson Varejao (and no, I'm not taking looks into account). He has no offensive game, most of his points are chippies and he likes to run down the court screaming after every play he makes, no matter how irrelevant the play is. The other night I watched him get bullied around by Kansas freshman Darrell Arthur... If he gets bullied around by Darrell Arthur, I squirm when pondering how he does against the big's of the NBA.

Utherhimo · 11-29-2006, 04:14 AM

well we know more about him than we do Oden and people are jumping up and drooling drooling all over a plaer who has yet to play a single ncaa game! now that is what I find really sad, you want to talk about over-hyped right now Oden be thy name. But, he could prove me wrong and I hope he does but saving my drool for when he actually does something in the league.

mediocre man · 11-29-2006, 07:30 AM

No, mine is the same. Young inexperienced team, a coach that would rather play Jamaal Magloire, who sucks, than develop the #2 pick in the draft, who also prefers an antiquated offense that is extremely easy to defend. A rotation that includes Steven Graham, Dan Dickau, Joel Przybilla, Jamaal Magloire, Raef LaFrentz, Ime Udoka along with rookies Roy, Aldridge and Rodriguez isn't going to win a lot of games.

Joel is a great guy, but him coming back doesn't help us win games like Roy will. Until we get Roy back at full strength I would expect more and more losses. Teams have figured out how to easily defeat the Blazers, and that is by doubling and tripling Zach. He will get his points, but his % has been going down, and will probably continue to do so until someone can take pressure off of him.

Yega1979 · 11-29-2006, 08:33 AM

Mine has changed. We're digging ourselves into a hole here and playing some pretty sloppy basketball. When Roy returns, I think he can make us a .500 team, from here on out, but he may not even be capable of raising us that level, and we'll fall short of the playoffs in either case.

Anyhow, last year Portland did the exact same thing, started off playing good basketball with good synergy, then wound up sucking.

It's_GO_Time · 11-29-2006, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Yega1979

Mine has changed. We're digging ourselves into a hole here and playing some pretty sloppy basketball. When Roy returns, I think he can make us a .500 team, from here on out, but he may not even be capable of raising us that level, and we'll fall short of the playoffs in either case.

Anyhow, last year Portland did the exact same thing, started off playing good basketball with good synergy, then wound up sucking.

Please don't mention last year . . . it causes me involuntary muscle spasms.

tlong · 11-29-2006, 08:57 AM

Brandon Roy being out is the reason we are losing so many games. I think the Blazers have been holding him back in order to finish with a better chance in the lottery. I believe he will eventually have surgery thereby ensuring he misses the max number of games and cementing our high lottery pick.

ProudBFan · 11-29-2006, 09:06 AM

Before the season, I felt this team would struggle over the course of the first half of the season but show signs of improvement over the 2nd half. Yes, I got sucked into the excitement of several comeback wins and allowed myself to feel like they were on track to be competitive sooner than I originally thought. And yes, I'm coming back to earth now, and realizing that my original expectations were probably right on the money.

So to summarize: My short-term expectations are changing from what they were a couple weeks ago, but only to come back in-line with with my original long-term expectations coming into the season.

If that makes any sense.

PBF

RedHot&Rolling · 11-29-2006, 09:16 AM

Is my mindset changing? Not at all.

I predicted 25-30 wins this season. I'll stick to that. The team will win about 1 out of 4 games with more signs of progress - except in the "W" column.

Roy is the real glue for this team. They miss him on the court.
Outlaw is finally showing consistency and progress in his game - Bravo!
Aldridge is a good rook.

We need to move Magloire for whatever benefits us most. I hope they don't let the contact expire for cap reasons. We need more talent.

I'm still dreaming of a high pick in the '07 Draft.

ProudBFan · 11-29-2006, 09:57 AM

We have a pretty good crop of youngsters. Jack, El Chacho, Roy, Webster, Udoka (I know... ultimately a role-player, but a solid one nonetheless), Outlaw, and Aldridge. But they are youngsters. I'm willing to give 'em time.

PBF

mediocre man · 11-29-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ProudBFan

We have a pretty good crop of youngsters. Jack, El Chacho, Roy, Webster, Udoka (I know... ultimately a role-player, but a solid one nonetheless), Outlaw, and Aldridge. But they are youngsters. I'm willing to give 'em time.

PBF

Udoka although solid and a roll player isn't young. He is 29 or 30.

**Trader Ed** · 11-29-2006, 10:27 AM

I have not had a chance to watch more than maybe 1/4 at a time... and not very often. But from what I have seen, even in the last 2 weeks is exciting.

I thought maybe 27-30 wins was possible just becuase of the amount of injuries we had last year was a detriment. With a season with far less injuries the wins would come easier. It started too until Roy was hurt along with Joel. I look forward to both of them returning to form.

There are some very good pieces of the puzzle here put in place. I would not mind a few trades to put us in a position to benefit from the draft this year. e.g. the Chicago trade ideas netting us another draft pick. I still do not want Dickau or Dixon on the team, not to mention Miles. I am ok with Magloire just dropping off the salary books next year as long as LMA steps up. And I am ok with Raef being on the team as long as he contributes. He is paid way too much though obviously. But will be gone in a few years. His shooting ability should help balance out the offense on the 2nd unit.

Overall I am fine with what they are accomplishing. Bring it on.... I want more wins as well, but can put up with one more year of a tank job to get Oden or Durant on board.

Go Blazers

TallBottom · 11-29-2006, 10:28 AM

No-I think earlier they were exceeding my expectations and having Roy out now as well as the other injuries has resulted in some dismal play of late but (and you guys that are close enough to see more of the games could say better than I) as long as the effort is there and the desire to work as a team I think we'll need to let them grow.

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