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**Dan** · 11-29-2006, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ZBoFanatic

I really don't think Oden will come out next year. The kid had a 1300 or 1400 SAT score and a 3.5+ GPA in high school to go along with his bball skills. I guarantee he wants his degree and probably wants to play a full season of college ball, so I don't think leaving after his first year in college is in his best interest. I would bet on him coming out after his sophomore year so he is at least 1/2 finished with his college curriculum, but wouldn't be surprised if he stayed even longer.

yeah, because god knows he'll need that degree to fall back on once his playing days prove to be small.

ebott · 11-29-2006, 09:49 AM

Yes and no.

The No hand - I agree with those that say Brandon Roy being out is why we aren't doing as well as we did earlier in the season. So the hopes that balooned when we were tops in the North West Division are prepared to come right back the second Brandon takes that first step back on the floor.

The Yes hand - I was predicting 30 wins before the season and if we keep on the same pace we're on now that's where we'll end up. And in the long run having a high pick in this years' draft is more important than being close to making the playoffs this year.

Iwatas · 11-29-2006, 10:10 AM

If the Blazers are to end up with a record among the bottom four teams, previous seasons suggest they should have no more than 26 or 27 wins. So far this year is showing a fair amount of parity, meaning that 2-3 games' difference could be the difference between a 4 pick and an 8-10 pick.

I figured the Blazers would be better than last year, but the great start did feel like a flash in the pan. Youth *does* make a difference, and rookie teams are consistently beat by veteran teams, no matter how much heart they show. Roy makes a big difference, but

I figured the Blazers for 26-28 games, and I think that is still correct. Probably not poor enough for Oden or Durant.

iWatas

Blazer Ringbearer · 11-29-2006, 10:11 AM

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I really don't think Oden will come out next year. The kid had a 1300 or 1400 SAT score and a 3.5+ GPA in high school to go along with his bball skills...

Sounds like he's smart enough to do the math...

$5,000,000 > $0

Or does it take a 1600 on the SAT's for that one to sink in?

Let's face it, people go to college in order to get the skills they need to get a good job and make good money. If you can make millions without doing that, why wouldn't you do it?

You can always afford to go back and pay a small portion of the money you earned to pick up some knowledge.

RedHot&Rolling · 11-29-2006, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Iwatas

......I figured the Blazers for 26-28 games, and I think that is still correct. Probably not poor enough for Oden or Durant.- iWatas

Good thing the existence of many ping-pong balls and a lottery!!!

ebott · 11-29-2006, 10:39 AM

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Good thing the existence of many ping-pong balls and a lottery!!!

I think we're cursed in that regard. Back in that ominous 1984 draft we lost the coin flip that would have gotten us Akeem Olajuwon. Last year we got dumped from 4 to 1. The year before we got a little luck to jump up to 3 but it didn't really help us. Like the powers that be were thumbing their noses at us knowing that only the #1 pick would have made a difference that year.

Samuel · 11-29-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ebott

I think we're cursed in that regard. Back in that ominous 1984 draft we lost the coin flip that would have gotten us Akeem Olajuwon. Last year we got dumped from 4 to 1. The year before we got a little luck to jump up to 3 but it didn't really help us. Like the powers that be were thumbing their noses at us knowing that only the #1 pick would have made a difference that year.

They did get screwed, but they also ended up with the top 2 guys on their draft board.

That NEVER happens.

tlong · 11-29-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ZBoFanatic

I really don't think Oden will come out next year. The kid had a 1300 or 1400 SAT score and a 3.5+ GPA in high school to go along with his bball skills. I guarantee he wants his degree and probably wants to play a full season of college ball, so I don't think leaving after his first year in college is in his best interest. I would bet on him coming out after his sophomore year so he is at least 1/2 finished with his college curriculum, but wouldn't be surprised if he stayed even longer.

No way in heck that he stays another year! Too much risk.

Utherhimo · 11-29-2006, 11:22 AM

yup since he "hurt" now, no one really knows if its real or a fake injury to protect his number #1 rank so he can blow up in the tourniment cementing his #1.

If we get the 5th place record i predict that we will get a top three pick.

mediocre man · 11-29-2006, 12:13 PM

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No way in heck that he stays another year! Too much risk.

I agree. Hopefully he'll look at Noah's situation. He would have been a much higher pick in this last draft. If he has a desire to be picked high he will come out this year. Noah didn't seem to care.

ZBoFanatic · 11-29-2006, 02:23 PM

All I'm saying is that he's a bookworm. He LIKES learning, and that has nothing to do with money. Is that Greek to you? There's more to life for some people than making money, and Greg's academic record and college major choice are indicative of him having interest in school and academic pride.

A lot of NBA players finish off their degrees in the off season as well. I think Oden wants an accounting degree from OSU, a pretty good business school. Do you think that someone just signs up for accounting with no intentions of getting the degree? He easily could have chosen a blow off major. Just don't be too surprised if he doesn't declare this year.

Verro · 11-29-2006, 02:49 PM

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A lot of NBA players finish off their degrees in the off season as well. I think Oden wants an accounting degree from OSU, a pretty good business school. Do you think that someone just signs up for accounting with no intentions of getting the degree? He easily could have chosen a blow off major. Just don't be too surprised if he doesn't declare this year.

As an accounting major I'd hope he has enough financial sense not to waste years of his limited NBA window on college.

If he comes out after his freshman year he'll have around 14-15 years in the league, 4 of those will be taken up by his rookie contract. Not to mention the risk of getting injured during his sophomore year.

Basicly, he'd be wasting nearly 1/10 of his lifetime NBA contract earnings for each additional year he spends in school. If we was a physics or philosophy major, I could see him staying. But an accounting major... no chance.

2k · 11-29-2006, 03:16 PM

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Haha...

All the Noah talk. The guys is so overrated its not even funny. I've been saying this since last year and a thing hasn't changed. He averaged like 15 and 8 in the tournament last year and happened to be a vibrant figure, who took in most the credit on a very good overall Florida team (who is loaded with pro's). He's a tad bit better version of Anderson Varejao (and no, I'm not taking looks into account). He has no offensive game, most of his points are chippies and he likes to run down the court screaming after every play he makes, no matter how irrelevant the play is. The other night I watched him get bullied around by Kansas freshman Darrell Arthur... If he gets bullied around by Darrell Arthur, I squirm when pondering how he does against the big's of the NBA.

The guy reminds me a lot of a slightly rawer Marcus Camby. In this day and age that’s worth a top 4 pick. Ahh it doesn’t matter he is not right for the Blazers anyway.

Back on the Subject. I figured this team would win 28-33 games. Even with a healthy Roy and an improved Randolph this is still barely a 30 win team. Most of the team is improving at a reasonable pace. I cant complain. 33 wins and a top four pick and I’m happy as a runaway slave.

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