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01-09-2007, 09:34 AM
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Trade idea: Portland - Philly
One of the speculations in this morning HoopsHype is that Philadelphia may be wanting to buyout Chris Webber's contract. He has over a $20 mil salary this year and next.
For those of you that do not want to move Randolph for the right deal... let me throw out this wacky trade idea
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Portland trades Randolph, LeFrentz, Dickau and Dixon
Philly trades Chris Webber, Iguadola and Williams.
Portland sheds theirr 2 most expensive contracts that are on the books for a promising SF in Iggy. In the process they get a backup PF for LMA who will have an expiring contract next year. Williams is just filler to make the deal work and can be waived. This greatly reduces Portland long term salary at a point in time they need to renew some of their young core players.
Philly gets a 25/10 Randolph to build on. And some bench depth as well. But most importantly they are rid of Webber's contract. They get a return on their money now.
PG Jack, Rodriguez, Williams
SG Roy, Webster, Udoka
SF Iguadola, Outlaw, Miles
PF Aldridge, Webber
C Przybilla, Magloire
thoughts?
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01-09-2007, 09:42 AM
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Re: Trade idea: Portland - Philly
Philly wouldn't do that. They're not trading Iguadola. He's their golden child.
This would be akin to Sacramento offering us Artest for LaFrentz and Brandon Roy. We get a good player with some issues and we ship out a big contract. But it's not worth the price of Roy.
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01-09-2007, 09:46 AM
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happy fat guy
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Re: Trade idea: Portland - Philly
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Originally Posted by Trader Bob
One of the speculations in this morning HoopsHype is that Philadelphia may be wanting to buyout Chris Webber's contract. He has over a $20 mil salary this year and next.
For those of you that do not want to move Randolph for the right deal... let me throw out this wacky trade idea
Check it out
Portland trades Randolph, LeFrentz, Dickau and Dixon
Philly trades Chris Webber, Iguadola and Williams.
Portland sheds theirr 2 most expensive contracts that are on the books for a promising SF in Iggy. In the process they get a backup PF for LMA who will have an expiring contract next year. Williams is just filler to make the deal work and can be waived. This greatly reduces Portland long term salary at a point in time they need to renew some of their young core players.
Philly gets a 25/10 Randolph to build on. And some bench depth as well. But most importantly they are rid of Webber's contract. They get a return on their money now.
PG Jack, Rodriguez, Williams
SG Roy, Webster, Udoka
SF Iguadola, Outlaw, Miles
PF Aldridge, Webber
C Przybilla, Magloire
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I don't think Philly will give up Iggy, so let me throw this trade out.
Webber, Korver 2007 unprotected pick for Zach, Magloire, filler
Webber, Carney, 2007 unprotected pick, Zach, Magloire
Maybe those two. I like Carney a lot, and think he could develop into a nice SF down the road. The only reason I'd do this trade anyway is to get that pick
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01-09-2007, 09:46 AM
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Re: Trade idea: Portland - Philly
It is probably a fair trade, but I don't think Philly has any interest in trading Iggy. From what I understand, he is who they want to build around. Once a team makes a decision to build around a player, it is almost impossible to design a fair trade to pry that player away.
I would love to have Iggy, but we would have to overpay to get him, and I don't want to to do that.
If Philly decided not build around Iggy, I still think it would take more to get it done. I would be willing to throw in Outlaw as well, if needed.
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01-09-2007, 09:48 AM
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happy fat guy
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Re: Trade idea: Portland - Philly
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Originally Posted by ebott
Philly wouldn't do that. They're not trading Iguadola. He's their golden child.
This would be akin to Sacramento offering us Artest for LaFrentz and Brandon Roy. We get a good player with some issues and we ship out a big contract. But it's not worth the price of Roy.
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Great post. People should think of Randolph and Ron Artest as similar valued players. Artest is a great player, but has a lot of off court issues. Try thinking about this before proposing deals involving Zach. I mean which young players on our team would you give up for Artest and all of his baggage?
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01-09-2007, 09:50 AM
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Re: Trade idea: Portland - Philly
Philly is looking to shed salary, not take on more obcene contracts. Webber is about to be bought out, do you think they would take raef lafrentz's horrible deal that runs 3 years instead? probably not.
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01-09-2007, 09:52 AM
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Re: Trade idea: Portland - Philly
Actually, this is a very interesting proposition because of the variables you can throw into it. Philly is having just an awful season and they will be in the lottery despite playing in the East. If things were based upon record in the lottery (which as we know they aren't), Philly I believe would be picking 2nd. At that spot Oden is gone, but Durant is available.
So if Philly picks Durant they can let Iggy go. If they want to keep Iggy, they could trade down and get someone else to fill in some other hole as well as get pieces from another team. We could be in position to trade up and get that 2nd pick...
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01-09-2007, 09:54 AM
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Re: Trade idea: Portland - Philly
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Originally Posted by mediocre man
I don't think Philly will give up Iggy, so let me throw this trade out.
Webber, Korver 2007 unprotected pick for Zach, Magloire, filler
Webber, Carney, 2007 unprotected pick, Zach, Magloire
Maybe those two. I like Carney a lot, and think he could develop into a nice SF down the road. The only reason I'd do this trade anyway is to get that pick
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This is more realistic because it helps Philly rebuild around Iggy. I don't see anyone giving up a 2007 pick that wasn't top two protected though. And I'm not sure I would do this trade if it didn't give me a shot at one of the two grand prizes.
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01-09-2007, 09:58 AM
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happy fat guy
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Re: Trade idea: Portland - Philly
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Originally Posted by Reep
This is more realistic because it helps Philly rebuild around Iggy. I don't see anyone giving up a 2007 pick that wasn't top two protected though. And I'm not sure I would do this trade if it didn't give me a shot at one of the two grand prizes.
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Brandon Wright would be a better fit for Nate than Zach. Wright is a pretty good defender. He and Aldridge could be bookend post players for the next decade. Even Noah or Julian Wright would be great additions. If nothing is there then we have two very good high picks we could use to get a young star quality player with.
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01-09-2007, 10:19 AM
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Re: Trade idea: Portland - Philly
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Originally Posted by mediocre man
Brandon Wright would be a better fit for Nate than Zach. Wright is a pretty good defender. He and Aldridge could be bookend post players for the next decade. Even Noah or Julian Wright would be great additions. If nothing is there then we have two very good high picks we could use to get a young star quality player with.
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Yeah i love Brandan Wright too. He actually reminds me alot of LMA. With two versatile inside/outside players on the floor at once, that could create a slew of mismatch problems.
Julian Wright has impressed me as well, i just get the feeling he is more of a Tim Thomas type player, who doesnt care enough to dominate.
The picks from 10-20 are actually quite good. You could field a team out of those 10 players and have a chance to compete.
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01-09-2007, 11:48 AM
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Re: Trade idea: Portland - Philly
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Originally Posted by mediocre man
Brandon Wright would be a better fit for Nate than Zach. Wright is a pretty good defender. He and Aldridge could be bookend post players for the next decade. Even Noah or Julian Wright would be great additions. If nothing is there then we have two very good high picks we could use to get a young star quality player with.
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MM, You'd say a thong-clad Rosie O'Donnell be a better fit for Nate than Zach if it got Zach off the roster.
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01-09-2007, 11:58 AM
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happy fat guy
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Re: Trade idea: Portland - Philly
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MM, You'd say a thong-clad Rosie O'Donnell be a better fit for Nate than Zach if it got Zach off the roster.
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Careful, or I'll cry about you being incensitive about large people. Only large people have the right to say anything about large people...or only large women have the right to say anything about large women...or only large lesbians have the right to say anything about large lesbians...or is it hetrosexually challenged women have the right.........whatever
Actually Nate wants a defensive team, and even if you are the biggest Zach supporter with blinders on you'd have to admit he sucks at defense.
I didn't even get into his off court stuff which doesn't fit in for a second with what this orgamization is trying to accomplish.
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01-09-2007, 12:55 PM
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Re: Trade idea: Portland - Philly
Iggy or someone with his skill set:
1)defense
2)athleticism
3)handles
4)quality FT shooter
would be an ideal SF for this team.
Our current options for SF are:
Outlaw: Has #2 and #4 improving. Too slow in reacting to defend the perimeter. #3 poor.
Webster: Lacking in #1 and 3, ok #2 and solid #4
Udoka: #1 solid, Lacking #2, good #2 and streaky #4
I can forsee the Blazers throwing a portion of the MLE at Desmond Mason, who has #1 and #2 in abundance, is a poor #3 and was at one time a good free throw shooter.
Mason would be very effective if Nate chooses to open up the offense and Nate liked him from the Seattle days.
Durant would address all 4 requirements, but is likely to be gone before the Blazers draft.
The remaining SF's all have some limitations: Brewer, Wright and Young.
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01-09-2007, 03:05 PM
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