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Old 01-22-2007, 04:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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13 freakin minutes?

Nate played Sergio only 13 minutes the whole game. I'm really begining to hate Nate McMillen. All Sergio did was dish out 6 assist with 0 turnovers and he cant get more than 13 f'n minutes. Yeah he gave up a few buckets to Boykins, but Jack did also. Jack played 40 minutes and had only 3 assist. It's not like the starters did great. We were up by 10 when Sergio was taken out and we almost blew the lead against the freakin Bucks without Redd. FIRE NATE!!!
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Old 01-22-2007, 04:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 13 freakin minutes?

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I'm really begining to hate Nate McMillen.
LOL... you're just now starting to hate him? you didn't before?

learn to spell his name right btw. also, "beginning."
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Old 01-22-2007, 07:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
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LOL... you're just now starting to hate him? you didn't before?

learn to spell his name right btw. also, "beginning."


It could have been a firm dislike before.
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 13 freakin minutes?

aldridge also only got 13 minutes while lafrentz and magloire did nothing he couldn't have done much better. sigh.
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: 13 freakin minutes?

I hear you. After 3 quarters Jack had 1 assist in the Zbo slow down offense. Martell had 10 points in one quarter without Zbo in and Sergio running the show. With Zbo in Martell got 2 shots in about 15 minutes, and ball movement dropped to a screeching halt. Sergio + Lemarcus = Assist waiting to happen. Yet who does Nate put in with Sergio in the second half for the few minuetes he is out there? Magloire and Raef. Two of the slowest guys who cannot run the floor for the life of them in the league. Get a fargin clue Nate!
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Re: 13 freakin minutes?

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I hear you. After 3 quarters Jack had 1 assist in the Zbo slow down offense. Martell had 10 points in one quarter without Zbo in and Sergio running the show. With Zbo in Martell got 2 shots in about 15 minutes, and ball movement dropped to a screeching halt. Sergio + Lemarcus = Assist waiting to happen. Yet who does Nate put in with Sergio in the second half for the few minuetes he is out there? Magloire and Raef. Two of the slowest guys who cannot run the floor for the life of them in the league. Get a fargin clue Nate!
Not that I necessarily agree with it (and not to say I don't) but it seems like Nate's been intent on slowing Rodriguez down, at least in part to get him to be more careful and deliberate. If one buys that that's a good idea (and it's clear both that you don't and that Nate does) then putting him in with the two slowest guys on the roster makes some sense. And, it's also true that Magloire at least has been looking better of late, at least in part thanks to Rodriguez.
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Old 01-22-2007, 09:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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it seems like Nate's been intent on slowing Rodriguez down, at least in part to get him to be more careful and deliberate.
Such foolishness on Nate's part!

Look at http://www.nba.com/statistics/player...DD=All%20Teams , where Sergio is now officially the second best assists/48 man in the NBA.

Nate wants CAREFUL????? Sergio has the *best* assists/turnover ratio of any point guard in the top 10 for assists/minute. Better than Nash, better than Kidd, better than anyone else in the top 10. 3.53 assists/turnover is stupendous.

What more can Nate want? What is his problem?

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Not that I necessarily agree with it (and not to say I don't) but it seems like Nate's been intent on slowing Rodriguez down, at least in part to get him to be more careful and deliberate.
That seems to be Nate's strategy. Lord knows why--it's not like Sergio is a turnover machine.

Nate seems to have a preconceived idea that his team MUST be a slow-down squad with Randolph on the roster. Somebody must point out to him that Sergio has his highest +/- rating when playing beside Zach.
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Such foolishness on Nate's part!

Look at http://www.nba.com/statistics/player...DD=All%20Teams , where Sergio is now officially the second best assists/48 man in the NBA.

Nate wants CAREFUL????? Sergio has the *best* assists/turnover ratio of any point guard in the top 10 for assists/minute. Better than Nash, better than Kidd, better than anyone else in the top 10. 3.53 assists/turnover is stupendous.

What more can Nate want? What is his problem?

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Maybe, just maybe, it is BECAUSE Nate forces Sergio to slow down? For all we know Nate has a chance to see Sergio run faster in practice and notice a lot more turn-overs?

One has to wonder how people can take the good results of Nate's system and use it against him without all the information...
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Maybe, just maybe, it is BECAUSE Nate forces Sergio to slow down? For all we know Nate has a chance to see Sergio run faster in practice and notice a lot more turn-overs?

One has to wonder how people can take the good results of Nate's system and use it against him without all the information...

Sort of like people taking the odd, or bad results from Nate's system and using it in favor of him without all the information.
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:04 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: 13 freakin minutes?

Maybe Sergio had his minutes limited due to Boykins lighting us up for 28? You have to admit that Jack is a better on the ball defender, but Sergio will get better soon enough.
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Sort of like people taking the odd, or bad results from Nate's system and using it in favor of him without all the information.
Nice counterpoint but still, it's not as if Allen pulled Nate out of some bed 'n' breakfast (sorry, Mr. Shell). Some of us want to blame Nate for every loss, claiming that any wins fall in the "blind squirrel" category whereas others of us want to credit Nate for every win and blame anyone else (players, refs, or the other team) for the losses. Surely the answer lies somewhere between? At the very least there's shared responsibility.

I know we can only go by what we see and few, if any of us, have anything better than 3rd hand knowledge about what goes on in practice. Again though, after 20 some odd years in the NBA, no coach is as clueless as some of us are suggesting Nate may be. Whatever decisions he's making it's not without knowing what Sergio's assist to turnover ratio is, for example.
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:06 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Blazers won last night right?
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:08 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: 13 freakin minutes?

I'm convinced that some of you "Nate Haters" are just being plain fricken riduculous now. I suggest that the moderators create a new section entitled "Posts for Nate *****ing". That way after every game (win or lose) you all can nit pick, speculate, and theorize how bad all of Nate's decisions are in your own little group. Hell, we could even create a standard list of Nate's coaching errors and just have the haters check off each line of the list that Nate did wrong the night before.

Maybe you guys haven't noticed but the team has been playing pretty well the last three games. Maybe there is something to that whole coaching thing. Perhaps Nate is starting to find what rotations work for offense and defense?

Or if I lived in the "Nate Hater" world, I would have to chalk up the wins and good play to pure chance and luck despite Nate's coaching.

You guys should at least pretend to be objective and fair.

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