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Blazer Ringbearer · 01-23-2007, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by hasoos

I am just wondering how you are thinking he is going to get in. You already listed 4 forwards, and possibly 6 who could beat him out, and IMO Josh Howard will get in, there is no question about that. If you watch games of other teams, he gets raved about constantly where ever he goes, and gets a lot of credit for Dallas positive W column.

No I think the reality is, Portland doesn't get an all star again this year, and the fact is, we really don't have any.

I'm not saying that he'll get in, just that he has a shot.

I think the odds are against him, since there's really one spot up for grabs, but I don't think he's out of it.

Quick look at the competition...

Zach Randolph: 24pt, 10reb (17W-25L)
Carlos Boozer: 22pt, 12reb (28W-14L)
Shawn Marion: 19pt, 10reb, 2st, 1.5bk (32W-8L)
Lamar Odom: 18pt, 9reb, 21GP (27W-15L)
Josh Howard: 20pt, 5reb, 1.2st, 1bk (34W-8L)
Elton Brand: 21pt, 10reb, 1st, 2bk (19W-21L)
Rashard Lewis: 22pt, 7reb, 1.3st 27GP (16W-25L)

Looking at the data, I'd say that Marion and Howard are the strongest candidates for that last spot. And I agree with you that Howard probably wins since he's putting up big numbers on the best team.

For Zach to have a legitimate shot, the "short memory" factor would have to apply with a little Blazers win streak and a string of 30+pt games from Zach.

Samuel · 01-23-2007, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mediocre man

Anywhere else you can think of that Zach would fit? Probably needs to be a leastern conference team because of his style of play, and it probably needs to be a team with a star on it to help keep him in check. Also should be a team not worried about their image.

Let's say we do this:

Brown, Nocioni, and a #11 pick (New York's) for Randolph.

I think this trade would work, but if it goes down, we have to start thinking about thinning the roster (and we'd need to immediately deal Magloire).

Because this is what you'd end up with next season.

Jack, Sergio, Dickau
Roy, Webster, (Udoka), Dixon
Nocioni, Udoka, (Webster), (Outlaw), Miles,
Aldridge, Outlaw
Przybilla, LaFrentz (Aldridge)

1. Roy
2. Aldridge
3. Nocioni
4. Jack
5. Przybilla

6. Sergio
7. Webster
8. Outlaw
9. Udoka
10. #8ish
11. #11ish
12. LaFrentz
--
13. Dixon
14. Dickau
15. Freeland

16. Miles
xx. 2nd round pick
xx. 2nd round pick

That barely works. If you threw in the availability of Darius Miles it'd get even worse. Dixon, Dickau, and either Miles or Outlaw would need to be moved.

Kmurph · 01-23-2007, 11:52 AM

I'd rather see a POR\CHI deal like

PJ Brown, Ben gordon, NY Pick and filler (if necessary)
for Zach

I don't think CHI is dealing Deng....Prior to the season I think they might have thought about it, but after his play this year...no way...

Samuel · 01-23-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kmurph

I'd rather see a POR\CHI deal like

PJ Brown, Ben gordon, NY Pick and filler (if necessary)
for Zach

Where does Gordon fit in? Roy moves to SF? We already have a few of those still coming up through the system.

CocaineisaHelluvaDrug · 01-23-2007, 12:33 PM

Joe Smith (Expiring)
Kyle Korver
2 x 2007 1st rd picks (from dallas and denver)

for

Zach Randolph
2nd round 2007 pick

mediocre man · 01-23-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by www.starbury.com

Joe Smith (Expiring)
Kyle Korver
2 x 2007 1st rd picks (from dallas and denver)

for

Zach Randolph
2nd round 2007 pick

Most people will say nay nay to that, but that is a decent deal for Zach.

Samuel · 01-23-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by www.starbury.com

Joe Smith (Expiring)
Kyle Korver
2 x 2007 1st rd picks (from dallas and denver)

for

Zach Randolph
2nd round 2007 pick

Why would Philly do that? They're in rebuilding mode, which means accumulate draft picks and plug in the puzzle pieces, see what works.

ProudBFan · 01-23-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Blazer Ringbearer

Makes sense and it might be a reason that nothing will happen in terms of a Zach deal this season.

If he keeps up this production he has a shot at the All-Star team.

If he continues to excel for the rest of the season, his value should be even higher this summer since it would dispel any questions of whether or not he could keep up this level of play consistently.

It would show that he is worth his contract or close...

Unfortunately, the All-Star game is nothing more than a popularity contest - even the coaches' picks. And Zach just isn't popular across the NBA fan-base. Heck, he isn't even all that popular among Blazers fans.

Our best shot at All-Star weekend representation is w/ Roy, Aldridge, Sergio, and Jack playing in the Rookie / Soph game. Maybe Webster, too (long-shot, IMO).

PBF

Utherhimo · 01-23-2007, 03:35 PM

hhmmmm 20th and 30th picks plus the 8th ish pick might allow us to trade up

Blazer Ringbearer · 01-23-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ProudBFan

Unfortunately, the All-Star game is nothing more than a popularity contest - even the coaches' picks. And Zach just isn't popular across the NBA fan-base. Heck, he isn't even all that popular among Blazers fans.

Our best shot at All-Star weekend representation is w/ Roy, Aldridge, Sergio, and Jack playing in the Rookie / Soph game. Maybe Webster, too (long-shot, IMO).

PBF

I disagree about the coaches picks.

But I could be persuaded if you had some good examples of popular players being selected as AS reserves over more deserving players.

I can't remember any definite instances though...

CocaineisaHelluvaDrug · 01-23-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Samuel

Why would Philly do that? They're in rebuilding mode, which means accumulate draft picks and plug in the puzzle pieces, see what works.

Well i think that works out for both teams,

philly are not that far away from having a decent starting 5,philly are giving up 2 low 1st rounders but zach is a proven commodity and fits well in the half court system that andre miller and mo cheeks prefer,they still will end up with a top 8 pick in the draft and your 2nd rounder.

portland would obviously like to take part in the oden sweepstakes so getting rid of zach can only help there cause(and philly re: your 2nd rd pick).Joe Smith would actually fill thehole that zach leaves for the rest of the season,korver is the perfect!! spot up shooter to recieve sergio`s passes if the fastbreak breaks down and the 2 1st rounders give u manouvreability to trade up or just continue the youth movement into 2008.

Simply,zach is a quality PF and you cant get them cheaply,in the eastern conference he`d be one of the best PF there is,might seem like philly giving up a lot but a proven player over 2 possibilitys imo is a better deal

**Schilly** · 01-23-2007, 04:13 PM

In Orlando apparently as of today teh Magic are considering moving their rights to Fran Vazquez

blzr610 · 01-23-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by www.starbury.com

Joe Smith (Expiring)
Kyle Korver
2 x 2007 1st rd picks (from dallas and denver)

for

Zach Randolph
2nd round 2007 pick

I hate to burst your bubble, but Joe Smith was part of the Iverson trade, therefore he can't be dealt again this year.

I also suggest a trade of Zach Randolph and Juan Dixon to Washington for Antawn Jamison plus their first rounder. The Wiz get a dominant post player to compliment Arenas, and we get cap relief after next year, as well as another mid-range pick.

ThatBlazerGuy · 01-23-2007, 04:54 PM

I would gladly take Brown, Noc and NY's 1st for Zach.

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