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Old 04-01-2007, 01:05 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Durant >>>>>>>Iggy at the 3.

Miller is a decent PG, but if the offense is going to run through Roy as a ball handling 2 guard we need a PG who is more of a spot up shooter, or able to slash. Miller isn't that even in the remotest sense.

I like Horford a lot, but not enough to bring in 2 players that IMO wouldn't be inprovemetns for the team at their positions over what we send out. (check Jack vs Millers numbers they are too different).

There will be deal to be made to move Zach. But trading the player that was the first Freshman in NCAA history to Win AP PLayer of the year would be folly.
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Old 04-01-2007, 01:15 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: My offseason fantasy, what's yours? (draft, trades)

The Blazers Offseason:

Trade w/ Philly-
Philly gets:
Zach Randolph
Jarrett Jack

Blazers Get:
Kevin Ollie - brings experience and an expiring contract
Samuel Dalembert - dominant defensive #5
pick #18

Draft:
pick #7 JEFF GREEN - SF Georgetown
---this guy is the Brandon Roy of this year I promise. great character quality player

pick #18 - BPA

Dump LaFrentz for a soda and chips

next years line up
Sergio Rodriguez - dishes the ball with a solid jumper
Brandon Roy - i think you know what he can do
Jeff Green - this guy will grab rebounds and is an amazing passer. o yea and he deadly from the floor
LaMarcus Aldridge - he is NOT a 5. put him in his best position and you will get results
Samuel Dalembert - defensive player who will give at least 10 pts + reb

subs look good too
Draft Pick/Ollie - maybe use 18 on a PG or trade up using the seconds to get a premier guy
Martell Webster
Ime Udoka - gets resigned
Draft Pick - same
Joel Przybilla
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Old 04-01-2007, 01:21 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Dump LaFrentz for a soda and chips
Welcome aboard!

The LaFrentz part will be very difficult to accomplish, there are very few soda/chips making $12 million/year that people want to trade for Raef.

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Old 04-01-2007, 01:27 AM   #19 (permalink)
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This is the only trade I'd consider if Portland landed a top-two pick. If Portland has the #1 or #2 pick, short of getting unattainable players (James, Wade), I would not trade out of the top-two. Durant or Oden must become a Blazer at that point.

Now, trading down from #1 to #2 in order to pick up a couple more picks would be a nice move. Portland could then perhaps package those picks and maybe some other assets (up to and including Zach) to move up. Imagine if Portland ended up with, say, the #2 and #8 picks and landed Durant and Hibbert. That would be one of the all-time great young cores:

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PG: Rodriguez

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Old 04-01-2007, 02:03 AM   #20 (permalink)
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The Blazers Offseason:

Trade w/ Philly-
Philly gets:
Zach Randolph
Jarrett Jack

Blazers Get:
Kevin Ollie - brings experience and an expiring contract
Samuel Dalembert - dominant defensive #5
pick #18

Joel Przybilla
If you're going to trade Zach, you should at least get something better than that.
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Old 04-01-2007, 02:11 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I agree that Igoudala is good and better than Miller, but I disagree that he's a likely perennial All-Star. I think he could make an All-Star team, in a weak crop of forwards, but he's not great at anything save defense. I do love his defensive capabilities, but none of his scoring, passing and rebounding are top-shelf or way above average. I see Luol Deng as a future perennial All-Star; I don't see Igoudala on that level.

I see Igoudala more akin to Shane Battier...a fantastic role-player who can play great defense, give you a little bit of everything and can be a complimentary player on a good/great team.
Shane Battier? Really? Well, like I said, you're really underrating him. He's come alive since the Iverson trade. Over the last month:

Iggy: 45%FG, 20.7pts, 6.5reb, 6.2ast, 2.4stl, 0.5blk, 4.0to, 7.2 FTA

Deng: 52%FG, 19.6pts, 6.5reb, 3.5ast, 1.0stl, 0.8blk, 1.5to, 4.3 FTA

Now, it's arguable whose numbers are better, but you have to admit, it would be hard to argue one is much greater than the other, and neither resembles anything Shane Battier ever did. Iggy turns the ball over a lot, but he is extremely productive, and has lead the relatively talentless team that everyone thought was going to totally suck after trading away Iverson to a nearly .500 record since. And like you said, he plays great defense as well. Also, he's only 23 years old, just 15 months older than Deng, and like Deng, he's shown vast improvement over each of his first two seasons.

I'd rather have Durant, but Iggy is a very good player himself, and if KD doesn't meet the high expectations people have for him right now, then those two players aren't that far apart.
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yeah...
as soon as i saw trading the #1 or #2 and the deal involved the 76ers i didnt bother reading the rest .
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Old 04-01-2007, 04:31 AM   #23 (permalink)
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If you're going to trade Zach, you should at least get something better than that.
You kidding? The Blazers make out like bandits in that trade.
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Old 04-01-2007, 07:30 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Hmmm, fantasy draft and trades.

Salma Hayek has enough DRAFT beers that she TRADES in her man for me instead. There, how's that.

Fantasy basketball draft and trades are simple and well known to everyone.

Draft Durant, plug him in at SF and watch the Blazers win multiple championships over the next 15 years.

Trade Zach Randolph to Philly along with our 1st round pick in next years draft and twoyears later draft for Iggy....(remamber, this is fantasy)

Trade Jack and Joel to Atlanta for Marvin Williams

Trade Miles for an expiring contract

Re-sign Magloire, Outlaw

Make Nate promise to run or fire his ***

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Aldridge

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Old 04-01-2007, 09:35 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Trade Miles for an expiring contract....
If you're going to veer that far off the road from reality, why not step on the gas and trade Miles for Wade?

On the thread topic, my fantasy offseason involves drafting Oden. I know thats not all that creative/wacky but whatever... Portland would be instantly relevant again and in the hunt for a championship. Other trades could be made down the line to fine tune things, but I'd be for the team waiting until others are into a selling mode.

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Now, it's arguable whose numbers are better, but you have to admit, it would be hard to argue one is much greater than the other, and neither resembles anything Shane Battier ever did.
For a month, yes. If Igoudala keeps that up for a season, I'll agree that he's definitely well beyond Battier and comparable to Deng.

Actually, looking over his overall numbers, he is definitely better than Battier. I did underestimate his scoring.
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My dream scenario involves us getting the #1 pick and Atlanta getting the #2.

First of all, ATL getting the #2 keeps Phoenix from getting a high lotto pick...they don't need anymore talent than they already have. Second of all, thinking of the combos that ATL has with us in trades is just salivating.

My favorite is ATL decides it HAS to have Oden, possible for sure, since they already have M. Williams, Josh Smith, Josh Childress and Joe Johnson at the 2/3/4. In accomodating them we could and still landing Durant, while...

A. Unloading Raef, Dickau, or Miles' contracts -- because they're under the cap
B. Demanding one of their young swingment(most likely Chil, but I'd be even happier w/ Smith and Williams is still oozing potential from his pores)
Or C. (and this one is my favorite)...

Creating a blockbuster trade that works well for both teams. We send Jack (local area favorite and a young talented player at a position of need), and Zach, providing low post scoring to go w/ Oden and Sheldon Williams, and the #1 (Oden)... Gives the Hawks Balance, 2 young stars inside, a good young local pg.

In return, ATL sends the #2 (Durant -- i'm 50/50 on him or Oden either way and it's obvious that we could seriously use either), Joe Johnson, and Tyron Lue back to us. Gives us a legit star to pair in the backcourt with our budding star Roy, a superstar talent in Durant, and plenty of room for Aldridge to run wild.

The rest of the dream involves resigning Ime and Travis, Martell continuing to develop and work hard, Joel getting healthy, Sergio getting stronger, better on D and in english, BRoy and Aldridge continuing to get stronger and working hard in the offseason, Raef opting out, Darius continuing to get fatter and acknowledging that he'll never play again, signing the "I retire and won't come back" contract, cutting his salary off the cap, and us being able to use those 3 2nd rnd picks, Paul Allen's enormous wallet, and next years 1st to get another bigtime post prospect like BWright or Hibbert (in that order), and signing a veteran pf/c in [fa] -- we'd be under the cap if Raef and Dmiles left (at least in my dreamland!)

Johnson/Serg/Lue
Roy/Webs/Freddie
Durant/Ime/Tlaw/Webs
BWright/TLaw/[FA]
Aldridge/Joel/[FA]

(I can dream can't I?)

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Old 04-01-2007, 01:04 PM   #28 (permalink)
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No way Atlanta gives up that much, they'd call our bluff before that, after all they gave up for Joe Johnson. I could see something like this being feasible though:

Jack, #1 for #2, Marvin Williams

but I just don't see that much else being possible with them knowing we want either Durant or Oden, and aren't going to deal with anyone but them.
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