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04-03-2007, 12:57 AM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
The commentators remarked twice tonight that Brewer is 6'9" if that is true, with his speed and skill set, he could end up being an nba star.
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04-03-2007, 08:43 AM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
I don't see the Augmon comparison at all. He reminds me of Artest with a good attitude or maybe Pippen.
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04-03-2007, 10:43 AM
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I don't see the Augmon comparison at all. He reminds me of Artest with a good attitude or maybe Pippen.
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You don't remember Augmon while he was at UNLV, do you?
Augmon was a total lockdown defender with great length, very good quickness and excellent anticipation... who had holes in his offensive game.
I think that the Augmon comparison is actually pretty good. Hopefully Brewer keeps his head on straight and actually develops a jump shot at some point in his life.
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04-03-2007, 10:53 AM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
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You don't remember Augmon while he was at UNLV, do you?
Augmon was a total lockdown defender with great length, very good quickness and excellent anticipation... who had holes in his offensive game.
I think that the Augmon comparison is actually pretty good. Hopefully Brewer keeps his head on straight and actually develops a jump shot at some point in his life.
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He reminds me a ton of Augmon. Hopefully if we draft him he will develop a better outside jump er than Stacy had
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04-03-2007, 12:36 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
He already has a better jumper than Augmon. I was more concerned with his handles although lately his handles have been ugly but effective. The problem with Brewer is that he is looks like a rank amateur. He really does play like a giant snoop dog.
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04-03-2007, 12:51 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
I like long, athletic players who have great defensive skills. But with so little offensive game, I see Brewer as a complimentary player, not a star. I'd probably still favour Green over Brewer, because Green's handles and passing for his size give him the chance to be special. But I would rather have Brewer over Noah. Brewer's defense has the chance to be dominant, and he has tools to be a useful offensive player.
Another comparison I'd throw out for Brewer: Ruben Patterson, minus the bad attitude. Lock-down defender when he was younger with the tools and athleticism to become a scorer, though his lack of basketball IQ pretty much precluded him from becoming an offensive asset. Brewer also has questionable basketball IQ.
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04-03-2007, 01:14 PM
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The commentators remarked twice tonight that Brewer is 6'9" if that is true, with his speed and skill set, he could end up being an nba star.
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thats what he's listed at but of course those listings are often off. If he measures out to PIP sort of dimensions (6'7 barefoot, 7'2 wingspan) at the combine, I think he'll have enough size to be a very solid starting SF in the league. Whether he becomes an All-Star level player probably depends on how much he's able to develop his ballhandling and outside shooting.
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04-03-2007, 02:59 PM
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Neither should be top 5 picks, but I'm hoping Brewer didn't improve his stock too much and goes a bit after 10. I'd like to see the Blazers acquire another pick and find a way to get him, without using our top pick.
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too late. his stock is up already, probably into top 7 or 8 at worst (when's the last time a school had 3 players drafted in the top 8 in one year?)
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04-03-2007, 03:12 PM
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too late. his stock is up already, probably into top 7 or 8 at worst (when's the last time a school had 3 players drafted in the top 8 in one year?)
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Has it ever happened?
UNC had 3 of the top 13 in 2005:
2. Marvin Williams
5. Raymond Felton
13. Sean May
Duke had 4 of the top 14 in 1999:
2. Elton Brand
11. Trajan Langdon
13. Corey Maggette
14. William Avery
UConn had 2 of the top 3 in 2004, and Duke did, too, in 2002. UNC had 2 of the top 5 in 1998 and 2 of the top 4 in 1995 and 1984. Cal had 2 of the top 7 in 1994. Kentucky had 2 of the top 6 in 1984.
I only looked back to 1978, so it might have happened earlier than that.
It'll be interesting to see if FLA really gets 3 of the top 8. It seems unlikely, given that the top 2 will be Oden and Durant, meaning 3 of the next 6 would have to be Gators. It could happen, though...
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04-03-2007, 03:51 PM
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Another comparison I'd throw out for Brewer: Ruben Patterson, minus the bad attitude. Lock-down defender when he was younger with the tools and athleticism to become a scorer, though his lack of basketball IQ pretty much precluded him from becoming an offensive asset. Brewer also has questionable basketball IQ.
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That's a good comparison. Although, I think Brewer's form looks good enough that he might eventually be a decent shooter if he works on it. Wouldn't Ruben have been good if he could shoot? I think so.
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04-03-2007, 07:13 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
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You don't remember Augmon while he was at UNLV, do you?
Augmon was a total lockdown defender with great length, very good quickness and excellent anticipation... who had holes in his offensive game.
I think that the Augmon comparison is actually pretty good. Hopefully Brewer keeps his head on straight and actually develops a jump shot at some point in his life.
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Brewer is already a better offensive player than Augmon ever was. That's why it's a bad comparison. Artest or Pippen are the obvious comparisons to me.
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04-03-2007, 07:40 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
He reminds me of Josh Howard, can get to the basket, hit the outside shot, and great defender, if he ends up in Portland where does that leave Martell Webster?
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04-03-2007, 08:09 PM
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He reminds me of Josh Howard, can get to the basket, hit the outside shot, and great defender, if he ends up in Portland where does that leave Martell Webster?
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Webster still has time to grow. He could either be the first 2/3 off the bench or, if management is right that Roy's best position will turn out to be PG (which I question), then Roy, Webster, and Brewer could all start together, likely with Brewer defending the stronger offensive player between the 2 and the 3.
Mostly, though, if you look around at the best teams, they've got players far better than many of the guys in the Blazers starting line-up coming in off the bench -- there'll be room for him if he keeps improving.
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04-03-2007, 08:57 PM
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Brewer is already a better offensive player than Augmon ever was. That's why it's a bad comparison. Artest or Pippen are the obvious comparisons to me.
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You think that Brewer is ready to step in and average over 13 ppg for each of his first four NBA seasons?
Because Augmon was... of course, Pippen and Artest weren't, so I don't know where that leaves your criticism of the comparison.
Players don't have to be EXACTLY the same to be compared. Augmon and Brewer are both game-changers defensively with significant questions about their offensive games.
Ed O.
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