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04-02-2007, 08:17 PM
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Noah Vs Brewer
I don't know if anyone else has a similar opinion, but doesn't Brewer seem to be a more valuable player than Noah? By the time the NBA draft comes around I think Noah (if he comes out) will sink on draft boards and Brewer will move up to the top 5-6 range. I'm not sure he is not a better player than Jeff Green, yet on some boards Brewer isn't in the top 10. As for physical skills, the guy can jump, has nice range on his shot and plays great defense. Why is Noah considered a better player?
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04-02-2007, 08:25 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
I agree, Brewer is really playing well and his defense is very good, it seems like he can get steals easily against very good ball handlers. Noah, might be more valuable because he is a big man but, Brewer is much more valuable to teams, such as us, who could use a lock down SF, he also has a pretty nice offensive game that can get even better. Brewer is ranked higher then Noah in my mind for this years draft.
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04-02-2007, 08:42 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
I've been saying all along that Brewer is the best pro player on the Gators. He's like Ron Artest, only with a great, team-first attitude.
1a) Oden
1b) Durrant
2) B. Wright
3) Brewer
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04-02-2007, 08:43 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
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Originally Posted by Superblaze
I agree, Brewer is really playing well and his defense is very good, it seems like he can get steals easily against very good ball handlers. Noah, might be more valuable because he is a big man but, Brewer is much more valuable to teams, such as us, who could use a lock down SF, he also has a pretty nice offensive game that can get even better. Brewer is ranked higher then Noah in my mind for this years draft.
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His defense is incredible because he has freakish long arms. I would not complain if he ended up on Portland.
Back to Noah. Is he rated maybe higher because he played well in last years tournament? While I think he plays good defense, he doesn't seem better at anything from last year. Shooting even seems worse.
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04-02-2007, 08:47 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
He's certainly more "prototypical" for his position (SF) than any other Gator. My only worry with him is that DraftExpress compares him with... Stacey Augmon. Yikes. (They say his handles are not good. In that respect Noah presumably has the edge, as his ball-handling is better than most people for his height.)
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04-02-2007, 08:55 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
His handles aren't amazing, but certainly better than Augmon. Probably average for his position. He's an awesome player though, very solid. I think he should go 4-6 in the draft. I'd rather have him than Jeff Green.
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04-02-2007, 08:56 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
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Originally Posted by meru
He's certainly more "prototypical" for his position (SF) than any other Gator. My only worry with him is that DraftExpress compares him with... Stacey Augmon. Yikes. (They say his handles are not good. In that respect Noah presumably has the edge, as his ball-handling is better than most people for his height.)
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I was thinking his ball handling isn't that great, but it doesn't seem aweful either. Noah passing reminds me of Luke Walton. A very good passer for a big, but really doesn't do anything great
. I think his defense and energy is good, but is limited on offense.
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04-02-2007, 09:32 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
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He's certainly more "prototypical" for his position (SF) than any other Gator. My only worry with him is that DraftExpress compares him with... Stacey Augmon. Yikes. (They say his handles are not good. In that respect Noah presumably has the edge, as his ball-handling is better than most people for his height.)
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Augmon had all the tools to be an absolute stud. He morphed, though, from a defensive specialist to a scorer... or attempted scorer.
And he never really improved his offense, and especially not his perimeter game (where he really needed it).
I'd be excited to add Brewer to the Blazers.
Ed O.
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04-02-2007, 09:34 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
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Augmon had all the tools to be an absolute stud. He morphed, though, from a defensive specialist to a scorer... or attempted scorer.
And he never really improved his offense, and especially not his perimeter game (where he really needed it).
I'd be excited to add Brewer to the Blazers.
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Do you think he would be there at the 7 or 8 pick?
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04-02-2007, 09:35 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
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04-02-2007, 09:45 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
Neither should be top 5 picks, but I'm hoping Brewer didn't improve his stock too much and goes a bit after 10. I'd like to see the Blazers acquire another pick and find a way to get him, without using our top pick.
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04-02-2007, 09:58 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
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Do you think he would be there at the 7 or 8 pick?
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I think there's a pretty good chance, depending on who else comes out. I think that Green might still be ahead of him, and I expect that Yi might be, too. Oden, Durant, BWright, Horford seem pretty certain...
It'll be interesting to see how these guys work out before the draft.
Ed O.
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04-02-2007, 10:04 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
It'd be interesting to see a starting line-up that looks something like:
Jack/Rodriguez
Roy
Brewer
Randolph
Aldridge
shift to a taller/longer line-up more like
Roy
Brewer
Outlaw
Aldridge
Przybilla
I'm not convinced that second line-up would have enough ball-handling in it but for short stints they'd be pretty amazingly disruptive.
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04-02-2007, 11:43 PM
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Re: Noah Vs Brewer
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Augmon had all the tools to be an absolute stud. He morphed, though, from a defensive specialist to a scorer... or attempted scorer.
And he never really improved his offense, and especially not his perimeter game (where he really needed it).
I'd be excited to add Brewer to the Blazers.
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Actually, he started off scoring more his first four years in the league, then his offensive productivity tapered off and he became almost strictly a defensive specialist.
But Augmon never had an outside shot. He was a career 15% shooter. Bad comparison.
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04-03-2007, 12:36 AM
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