SamOwie

I've been struggling with my opinions on Green as well, so good post.

One thing that concerns me is rebounding, 6 boards a game for a 6'9.5 guy who played 30 mins a game is rather unimpressive, to be polite. I've been rationalizing that it is because Georgetown and the Big-East in general play a slower game. The Princeton offense is rather deliberate and GT plays hard on D so there are fewer shot attempts at both ends, right?

I do think he's going to struggle offensively in the NBA, he's not going to be able to take many guys off the dribble, even at the 4. Obviously he needs to improve, same for everybody else.

It's really too bad 1991 Scottie Pippen isn't available with the 37th pick.

BuckW4GM

i'm glad you're coming around on green, ed. i love green's game. unfortunately, i don't think we can get him unless we can get a pick in the 5-7 range.

CocaineisaHelluvaDrug

Iggy is a SG

Not even close to being a 3

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As I said in another thread, I keep flipping on SF's, but at the moment, I am higher on Green then any other except for Durant. The problem is I really think there is somthing to his true position being PF. But I think he could play both positions, and if we trade Zach, he could play backup at both spots.

His shooting doesn't concern me. His game was more inside then out, yet he still shot 40% from 3pt and 70% from the stripe with an overall FG of 50%. I think in the NBA, he will work on shooting more, but I love his ability to slide into many different roles. He can help facilitate the game. I think have smart unselfish players alongside Oden will be key to building a winning franchise, and that's the kind of kid Green is.

In order, this is my curret SF ranking

1)Durant - but I don't want him because that means we don't get Oden.

2) Jeff Green
3a) Al Thornton
3b) Thad Young
5) Brewer
6) Nick Young
7) J. Wright

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This is pretty similar to mine. I haven't really seen Thornton play, so I don't have him ranked as high, but that's essentially how I'm feeling right now.

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Boob-No-More

Actually, Green's pace adjusted reb/40 is pretty impressive for a 3/4 playing the shorter college game with a 35 second shot clock. Throw in the fact that he payed next to a 7'2" center and his rebounding is definitely not a weakness. I know everyone expects all these kids to pull down double digit rebounds, but it's just not realistic in the shorter, slower, lower scoring college game (especially the way Georgetown plays).

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Draco

People might be giving Green too much praise and Brewer not enough for their predraft measurements. They both have a standing reach of 8'7" even though Brewer measured 1" shorter. It doesn't matter where your head is at in basketball, its how high your hands can reach.

You can't train for height tests so I do value those, but the vertical jump, bench press, and speed/agility drills should only be a very small piece of information for evaluating draft picks. You can traing for those events to greatly increase your results. You know what they say, sometimes you get what you test for.

Ed O

Green had 4.5 inch wider wingspan than Brewer. He outweighs Brewer by 43 pounds. He outjumped him and outlifted him...

How can Brewer be given too little credit for getting outclassed so thoroughly?

This isn't a case of Green being some sort of workout warrior, either. He was the player of the year in the Big East... Brewer might not even have been one of the top two players on his own team. Green's impressive workout just solidifies the productive career he had at GTown.

Ed O.

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PorterIn2004

I suppose BPA should rule the day so if it comes down to Green vs. Brewer, maybe Green should win out. I'm nervous about that though, because Green seems potentially a "bad" kind of tweener in that he may not be fast enough to stay with NBA SFs and may not be big enough to guard NBA PFs, where as Brewer seems more likely to be the "good" sort of tweener, pretty equally able to defend at least SG and SF and potentially PG and PF.

On offense I can more easily believe that Green wins out over Brewer but defense is at least half the game (since you need to play defense every trip down but aren't necessarily involved every play on offense) and I really want someone who's better than Roy at defending 2s and 3s.

The more I think about it, the more I like the proposed Randolph for Wally and #5 from Boston.

e_blazer1

For some reason I keep mentally changing the word "on" to "off" when I read the title of this thread.

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hasoos

I did too. Then I was wondering, why does Ed O hate Jeff Green so much that he flipped him off.

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ProudBFan

Oh... I mis-read the Subject line...

I thought it read, "Why I Flipped off Jeff Green".

Interesting read, nonetheless.

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good point. Masbee pointed out in another thread that with Oden and Aldridge up front (and Outlaw likely a backup), we don't really need a 3/4 tweener next year. our twin towers are going to really limit the ability for larger small forwards to be able to punish us inside.

however, we still don't really have much in the way of perimeter defenders. Roy will probably become a decent one eventually, but isn't there yet. besides, he's going to need to expend a lot of energy on the offensive end. Jack is way overrated. Udoka is about all we've got, and nobody sees him as a long-term solution at SF.

I'm all for BPA. but if it looks to Pritchard like they are pretty close in talent and we have an option to pick either, I'd still prefer Brewer. there are too many good slashing/shooting wing men in this league to not have a quality lockdown defender there.

hasoos

You can argue all you want about stats, leaping, etc, but it all comes down to how they ball, and how they compete. Brewer was continually the type of player who made plays when the game was on the line, lock down defender, and even though possibly the 3rd best player on Florida, that is not bad when the team will have at least 4 guys in the NBA this year.

If there is one guy that Brewer reminds me of, its Josh Howard. He didn't turn out so bad.

Green I believe will end up more of a Tim Thomas. Not bad. But not a Josh Howard type.

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