View Poll Results: Assuming the Blazers took Oden @ #1, who should they take at #3 amongst these choices
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Corey Brewer
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28.05% |
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Mike Conley
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4.88% |
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Jeff Green
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3.66% |
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Spencer Hawes
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Al Horford
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20.73% |
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Joakim Noah
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Al Thornton
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6.10% |
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Brandan Wright
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14.63% |
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Julian Wright
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1.22% |
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Yi Jianlin
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20.73% |
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06-12-2007, 02:20 PM
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#16 (permalink)
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Re: Blazers Mock: #3
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Originally Posted by Ed O
You can, of course, vote however you'd like, Sam. Just to clarify my original intent: for the Blazers, which player would make the most sense at #3?
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Wow, I didn't even read that (I suppose that explains all of the silly votes for Brewer).
Portland doesn't really need a 4 or a 5 anymore, so you'd have to think about trading down to a team willing to shed a player for a pick ala Khryapa/Aldridge. The thing is, I'm not too high on Brewer as a lottery pick, and JWright/Green will be available later.
If it were possible for Portland, I'd do LaFrentz and the #3 for the best package you can get. There are questions about Zach Randolph in a trade, but there are none about #3 picks.
Horford is BPA, though. If a gun is to my head, I go with Horford and sell high in a few years when his value is great. That makes the most sense from a value standpoint.
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06-12-2007, 02:24 PM
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Re: Blazers Mock: #3
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Originally Posted by dudleysghost
Do the people voting for Brewer really think he is the best player available, or do you just think we should abandon the BPA rule?
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I think that the BPA folk are splitting their votes amongst Horford/BWright/Yi and all the "best fit" people are voting for Brewer.
Just a guess
I know that I, personally, would be unhappy if we took Brewer at #3.
Ed O.
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06-12-2007, 02:25 PM
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Re: Blazers Mock: #3
Dammit Ed, you're the guy that is always talking about BPA and talent and now you go with a poll talking about best players for the blazers needs. BPA is just that, BPA. Not best player for our needs. Read you sig, Ed. 
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06-12-2007, 02:27 PM
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Re: Blazers Mock: #3
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Originally Posted by graybeard
Dammit Ed, you're the guy that is always talking about BPA and talent and now you go with a poll talking about best players for the blazers needs. BPA is just that, BPA. Not best player for our needs.
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Haha.
I was trying to be agnostic about whether BPA is the best way to go or going with need is best... personally, I'm definitely BPA, but I didn't want to slant the poll.
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06-12-2007, 02:35 PM
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Re: Blazers Mock: #3
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Originally Posted by Ed O
I know that I, personally, would be unhappy if we took Brewer at #3.
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Me too.
Top Prospects (with the benefit of hindsight)
2006, Top Prospect at SF:
Rudy Gay
2005, Top Prospect at SF:
Marvin Williams
2004, Top Prospect at SF:
Luol Deng
2003, Top Prospect at SF:
Carmelo Anthony
2002, Top Prospect at SF:
Caron Butler
2001, Top Prospect at SF:
Joe Johnson
In a draft supposedly 'stocked' with SF prospects, enough where two high-level ones are supposedly available, the second best doesn't compare well with the players listed above.
I'd do Jack and the #3 for Rudy Gay, maybe. Trading high picks is a scary thing to do. I'd hate to be Ainge right now.
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06-12-2007, 02:43 PM
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Re: Blazers Mock: #3
I'd take Horford. Maybe it creats a jam at PF/C, but so be it. Horford is the clear 3rd best talent in this draft with Wright being close at the 4 and then there is a big drop off at #5. Kevin McHale spent a large part of his career coming off the bench scoring 20ppg for championship Celtic teams. I'd rather have a problem like that then a Bowie "draft for need" failure.
I could see Brewer winning this poll because the people voting for best fit will almost all vote for Brewer but posters voting for BPA will be split between Horford and Wright.
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06-12-2007, 02:49 PM
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Re: Blazers Mock: #3
it depends on who we trade to get the #3
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Brandan Wright is my pick
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06-12-2007, 02:52 PM
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Re: Blazers Mock: #3
To get the #3 pick (from Atlanta) we would have to trade Zach and Jack or Aldridge, leaving a bit of a void in the big man rotation.
We still need our Small Forward of the future.
And, a blue-chip PG prospect would be nice, especially if we can't get Blake back.
Can't get all 3 needs with one pick.
So, I went BPA, and after the measurements bumped him up, I go with Horford.
Though, if it was Zach and Jack for the #3, I would probably like it better if we swapped the #3 for 2 lower lotto picks and nabbed 2 BPAs. Then whichever need was left (out of PG, SF, Big) fill with more trades or MLE FA (Blake?).
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06-12-2007, 02:53 PM
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Re: Blazers Mock: #3
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Originally Posted by BengalDuck
Even assuming that we trade Zach Randolph to acquire any of these lottery picks, the player that to me is most desirable at that spot - Al Horford - doesn't really fit in to our team.
I'm not sold on Brandan Wright, and again, he's not at a position where we need anyone right now.
I guess I'd role the dice at #3 with Yi Jianlian, but I'd covet Atlanta's G's and F's (Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, even Marvin Williams) more than I would Yi.
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Pretty much right on the Smith and Johnson over anyone at the #3 spot.
I would take Yi also as BPA assuming it took Jack and Zach to get the #3. Yi can pay 3,4, or 5 in our lineup and would still allow us to move some 2nds for a more true sf.
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06-12-2007, 02:58 PM
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Re: Blazers Mock: #3
There's no way in hell that KP trade Aldridge even straight up for the number 3. Knowing what we know now, Aldridge would be the number 3 pick in this years draft. Aldridge is a sure thing, the others aren't.
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06-12-2007, 03:05 PM
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Re: Blazers Mock: #3
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Originally Posted by Samuel
Me too.
Top Prospects (with the benefit of hindsight)
2006, Top Prospect at SF:
Rudy Gay
2005, Top Prospect at SF:
Marvin Williams
2004, Top Prospect at SF:
Luol Deng
2003, Top Prospect at SF:
Carmelo Anthony
2002, Top Prospect at SF:
Caron Butler
2001, Top Prospect at SF:
Joe Johnson
In a draft supposedly 'stocked' with SF prospects, enough where two high-level ones are supposedly available, the second best doesn't compare well with the players listed above.
I'd do Jack and the #3 for Rudy Gay, maybe. Trading high picks is a scary thing to do. I'd hate to be Ainge right now.
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lebron is considered a SF
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06-12-2007, 03:55 PM
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Re: Blazers Mock: #3
I think that under this scenario...POR should roll the dice with Yi Jianlin...
But I think the list of prospect you put upo there Ed shows that POR may not necesssairly need to get that high of a lottery pick...
Thornton, Brewer, Green are intriguing players...but not at #3 IMO....IF POR had that pick and IF they chose to keep it and draft a player with it...Knowing you have Oden & Aldridge...I would think Yi would be the pick...
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06-12-2007, 04:03 PM
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Re: Blazers Mock: #3
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Originally Posted by Kmurph
Thornton, Brewer, Green are intriguing players...but not at #3 IMO....IF POR had that pick and IF they chose to keep it and draft a player with it...Knowing you have Oden & Aldridge...I would think Yi would be the pick...
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Personally, I don't see Thornton/Brewer/Green at quite the same level that I see Horford/BWright/Yi... I just think that the bigger guys are more likely to turn out to be special.
Yi and Wright, though, aren't ready to contribute and they might never be. Wright's lack of size and skill worries me, even though I have some level of confidence that he'll get a lot better.
Yi? Who knows. We don't know how big he is (he didn't participate in the Orlando measurements) nor how old he is (19? 22? that sort of thing makes a pretty big difference in projecting a prospect). We know he's skilled and all, and he MIGHT prove to be the third-best player in this draft... the bust factor just seems to be too high. So I went with Horford.
Ed O.
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-- Sandy Koufax
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