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Old 06-17-2007, 05:55 PM   #751 (permalink)
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Re: deal coming soon

Lets get real...

Getting the #1 pick was a PR godsend for the Blazers. They're getting tons of national press with tags such as "Who will Portland select Oden or Durant?". The debate is a large part of renewed interest within Portland as well, becoming one of the more overheard topics. Finally, after seeing the Oden vs Durant fan site, was there ever a question they wouldn't milk this for all it was worth.

KP isn't going to kill the golden goose by trading Zach for a SF and thus totally tipping his hand a second before he has to. If he does have a Zach deal, it will be sat on until the draft.
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Old 06-17-2007, 07:10 PM   #752 (permalink)
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Lets get real...

Getting the #1 pick was a PR godsend for the Blazers. They're getting tons of national press with tags such as "Who will Portland select Oden or Durant?". The debate is a large part of renewed interest within Portland as well, becoming one of the more overheard topics. Finally, after seeing the Oden vs Durant fan site, was there ever a question they wouldn't milk this for all it was worth.

KP isn't going to kill the golden goose by trading Zach for a SF and thus totally tipping his hand a second before he has to. If he does have a Zach deal, it will be sat on until the draft.
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Old 06-17-2007, 07:33 PM   #753 (permalink)
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Re: deal coming soon

I love the irony of the thread title and the fact that we're now 10 days and 50 pages removed from the initial post.

That said, "soon" is a very relative term. I'd just love to hit the fast-forward button on this draft, though!
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Old 06-17-2007, 07:50 PM   #754 (permalink)
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Re: deal coming soon

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Thanks for heads up, Hap. Your last sentence makes it seem like either Darius might be involved.
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Man I hope it is the "bad" Darius. So when will the priest perform said ritual?

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UGGA BOOGA MOOGA REMOVA DA BAD DARIUS!

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BLAH MAK DOF MOR RO DING DONG (That was speaking in tounges)

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Oh and this post has as much information as any other in this thread


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Old 06-18-2007, 12:26 AM   #755 (permalink)
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roll on roll on 10 days to go
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Motion to change thread title to "deal coming.............(pause for deep breath)............"

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Old 06-18-2007, 09:59 AM   #757 (permalink)
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I love the irony of the thread title and the fact that we're now 10 days and 50 pages removed from the initial post.

That said, "soon" is a very relative term. I'd just love to hit the fast-forward button on this draft, though!
At this point, Draft Day itself qualifies as "soon". I personally don't think anything's gonna happen until then. IF then.

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Old 06-18-2007, 10:38 AM   #758 (permalink)
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Didn't Kevin Pritchard in one of his interviews say that they wouldn't make/announce a deal of any kind till at least 48 hours before the draft? I coulda sworn that I heard that.
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At this point, Draft Day itself qualifies as "soon". I personally don't think anything's gonna happen until then. IF then.

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This is a serious change in tune for you, PBF. Just because MM's trade hasn't gone down, doesn't mean we arent going to be making moves. I think there is still a very high probability of something happening. We have 4 second round picks, and have some nice players we wouldn't mind moving and a GM who reportedly wants another lottery pick. The odds are certainly in our favor to make at least one trade, but most of these moves don't happen until right before or on draft day. Even if something has been arranged already, it may be contingent on a certain player being available at a certain spot, or simply just won't be announced until draft day. We don't need any inside sources to think this situation out logically.

On a somewhat different topic, check out this quote from ESPN Insider today:

Jun 18 - ESPN.com's Chad Ford has a new mock draft coming out on Tuesday, and he'll have a new player at the No. 3 position for the Atlanta Hawks.
For his next version, Al Horford will replace Brandan Wright. Sources say Horford is the Hawks' favorite at the moment -- though they could still trade the pick.


http://proxy.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

If this is true, perhaps we still have a shot at Conley, Jr. if we want him. Also, what does this mean for Atlanta? Are they happy with a Crittenton or a Acie Law at #11, or is their a Jarrett Jack trade in their future? Of course, maybe someone is just sending Chad Ford a smokescreen...
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This is a serious change in tune for you, PBF. Just because MM's trade hasn't gone down, doesn't mean we arent going to be making moves.
I didn't mean to imply that we wouldn't be making moves. Just that whatever is going on is being kept under super-high-density wraps and, consequently, people probably shouldn't be holding their breath for an announcement before or even during the draft. Whatever is going on may well have post-draft implications vs. pre-draft. We *think* the Blazers are angling for another 1st rounder, and we *speculate* that their strategy for getting one would require trading someone of high value (a reasonable speculation, IMO). But as of yet we (meaning the vast majority of the Blazers fans on these forums) have no tangible information that someone of high value is in fact being traded, nor that any such trade (if real) is necessarily linked to the Blazers' angling for another 1st round pick. What I am saying is that whatever it is that has been agreed to in principle may or may not materialize before the draft.

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I think there is still a very high probability of something happening. We have 4 second round picks, and have some nice players we wouldn't mind moving and a GM who reportedly wants another lottery pick. The odds are certainly in our favor to make at least one trade, but most of these moves don't happen until right before or on draft day. Even if something has been arranged already, it may be contingent on a certain player being available at a certain spot, or simply just won't be announced until draft day. We don't need any inside sources to think this situation out logically.
I agree with this. The Blazers apparently have the desire and means to accomplish some moves before / on draft day. I'm just saying that, while we have a few "dots" of information about what's going on, we may be letting our speculation connect them incorrectly.

EDIT:

Maybe I can illustrate my reservation better another way: Right now it seems like most of the speculation revolves around one or more big names being traded to someone back East for at least one other big name and another 1st round pick.

What if the deal that has been agreed to in principle (via MM and TBpup), that doesn't involve another team in the Northwest Division (via TBpup), and that nets us another 1st round pick (numerous sources have hinted at, but at this point is primarily speculation) is nothing more than Jack to Atlanta for their #11 pick? Yes, this would be executed before/on Draft Day, and *probably* announced before it is executed, but not *necessarily*. It could well be announced executed after the fact.

Likewise, what if the deal that has been agreed to in principle, that doesn't involve another team in the Northwest Division, actually *does* involve one or more big names going out and/or one or more big names coming back? It wouldn't necessarily involve the acquisition of another 1st round pick for us, and wouldn't necessarily have to be announced before/on Draft Day.

What I am saying is that there is a lot of white-space between the dots of "info" we have received, that more info is required to be able to validate or invalidate the connections that have been speculated on so far, and that THAT info may or may not actually be available before or even during the draft due to it being kept under heavy wraps.

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Old 06-18-2007, 12:29 PM   #761 (permalink)
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Soon...like George Bush leaving office soon, or the Pizza is going to be here in a half an hour soon?
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Re: deal coming soon

Or... say its a step 2 process

JJ for the #11... is step 1

and we then take that #11 and trade it in step #2


specualtion was once Zach for Richard Jefferson and the #17... with Thorn not wanting to give up the #17.. so we simplyu exchange the #11 for the #17

all in all...
Zach and Jack OUT
RJ and the #17 IN

with some specualting that we may get Marvin williams if we give out another player eg. Martell or Joel
e.g. Jack + Martell gets us #11 + Marvin


I am thinking the #11 could be involved in another deal
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Sure would be nice to know what the definition of the word "soon" is, wouldn't it?

All I can say is that I'm not holding my breath from now 'til Draft Day.

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Re: deal coming soon

Or... say its a step 2 process

JJ for the #11... is step 1

and we then take that #11 and trade it in step #2


specualtion was once Zach for Richard Jefferson and the #17... with Thorn not wanting to give up the #17.. so we simply exchange the #11 for the #17

all in all...
Zach and Jack OUT
RJ and the #17 IN

with some specualting that we may get Marvin Williams if we give out another player eg. Martell or Joel
e.g. Jack + Martell gets us #11 + Marvin


I am thinking the #11 could be involved in another deal (if indeed we are getting it)
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