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Old 12-04-2007, 03:04 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw

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Why are you mocking me in the first place? Are you just an *******?
No, I'm not just an *******. I'm that plus much, much more.

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I didn't do anything to you. I don't remember any certain threads involving you, I was talking to the board in general. I assume you were one of the Outlaw haters because of that last post you made.
Well, that would be a bad assumption on your part, then.

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It's threads like these that just piss me off though, so I have to say "told you so" because most posters are clueless.
Looking over the threads you quoted, I'd have to say a surprising number of things piss you off.

Nevertheless, I think you did prove that you are a staunch supporter of Travis Outlaw, and for that, I salute you!

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Old 12-04-2007, 03:15 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw

Dude, he just hit huge shots to help us win. That's what it's all about. And he's done other great things for us. Why hate on our own players? I don't get it. And I LOVE that photo of him taking the last shot. Gosh, he is SO high off the ground. Amazing.

I just don't get it when Blazer fans bash their own guys. Tonight's shot will go down as one of my all time favorite Blazer memories. Great, great shot to lift a HUGE monkey off our back.

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Old 12-04-2007, 03:26 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw

I dont get it when Blazer fans are expected to trip over their own mediocre players.

If your 'Love all Blazer players' idea was correct, all terrible Blazers like Raef would be loved.

Travis Outlaw is an interesting player, but until I see some sort of consistency I refuse to jump on his bandwagon. At the same time, I value him more than Jack. Either way, Outlaw hit a nice buzzer-beater and will never be truly remembered for this above average game unless he plays somewhat like this while this struggling team is vying for a decent playoff spot; something I wager he wont be involved in,
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Old 12-04-2007, 07:07 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw

Outlaw was playing in front of his parents and friends from Mississippi whom he had given tickets to. This was probably the biggest game of the year for him. I'm not surprised he played well--he was clearly pumped up and ready to go.

It reminds me of the game in New York in Telfair's rookie season when he put up 27 points against his cousin Stephon Marbury and in front of his family and friends. It's always easier to perform well when you're playing in front of loved ones and friends from home.

It should also be noted that Outlaw has had a few big games for us in the past, particularly those two games at the end of last season. But it's completely fair to point out that his "big games" are too few and far between. I'm hoping that his game-winning shot last night is a turning point in his career, and that it makes him realize he can be a big-time player in this league. Last night's performance may give him the confidence that he needs to take his game to another level.
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Old 12-04-2007, 07:16 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw

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A couple more. Some are about Webster too.

http://www.basketballforum.com/portl...ics-trade.html
This one is just outrageous. Everyone pretty much supporting the trade.
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Checking out just the first page of that thread most was against it. A couple, including the person that made the post was for it, but most of the replies said it was way to early to give up on Webster and/or that he shouldn't be in the trade.

I know I've defended Webster in the past. I'll admit some were ready to give up on him, but just as many were not.

Same goes with Outlaw. He's had just as many posters defending him as not. Maybe you notice the negative posts more.
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Old 12-04-2007, 07:33 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw

I'm fine with Outlaw shooting as long as it's not a quick jumper with a foot on the line. Travis seems to be able to get to the rim if he wants to. When he does this he is then able to jab step at the free throw line for an easy jumper. He also seems to be trying really hard on defense and hustling this season.
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Old 12-04-2007, 07:40 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw

I think barfo is just being barfo. I don't think he's ever (outside of certain posters, but even then he's pretty tame) made things serious when it comes to things.

Take it with a grain of salt, as he means no harm. After all, he lives in the land of super models, is a commie pinko and is probably the coolest guy on the board.

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Old 12-04-2007, 08:09 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Old 12-04-2007, 08:31 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw

People have compared Outlaw to Ruben Patterson in the past. Both are hard/bone-headed SFs capable of doing something breathtakingly stupid, especially when their synapses cannot keep up with their hands and feet.

I guess the big difference between them is that Ruben is a first-rate defender, and Outlaw actually is a decent shooter. ??

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Old 12-04-2007, 09:25 AM   #40 (permalink)
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The next stage of his development will be attacking the basket when his shot isn't falling. Right now, he doesn't attack if he's having a bad game. That will come with experience, though.
This really hits the mark. For me, it's about shot selection. He needs to
use his athleticism to get better shots. If he does that he's capable of
being an above average player. If he doesn't, he'll be stuck with the
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BTW, for him to be better than above average, he must commit less errors
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:53 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw

I was really REALLY proud of Travis last night. To hit the FOUR biggest shots of the game (dont forget the shot at the end of the 3rd to pull the Blazers within 4th-quarter striking distance) with his Dad in attendance was just a very special night for the kid. Thats the kind of thing that reassures us parents that we did a great job raising our kids. I couldnt suppress the huge grin that plastered itself to my face for about 45 minutes after the game (even if I wanted to), and it was for his Dad every bit as much as it was for Travis and the team.

Travis has shown flashes of both solid and clutch play up to this point. No, not consistently, but he seems to be there when the team needs him more often than not. He also still makes the occasional low-basketball-IQ mistake (like not attacking Stro a lot more often last night, like Wheels pointed out), but those mistakes are fewer and farther between than they used to be.

Point is, the kid IS learning. And - to me anyway - has proven his value to the team on many occasions (I have never once hated on him). Not everyone has to - or can - be a superstar. And even IF Travis is destined to be a role-player in this league, I say its a DAMN good thing he is on our roster while he is young, that he understands and accepts his role, that he has such GREAT chemistry with the rest of our young squad, and that he is a genuinely good person.

Man, I cant WAIT to see Travis, Brandon, Lamarcus, Jarrett, Martell, Sergio, Przy, Fernandez (fingers crossed), et al in action with Oden next season.

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Re: No more hating out Outlaw

When Travis Outlaw steps up and becomes consistent, I will like him. But until then, he is going to be one of those guys that I hold my breath and cringe when he has the ball. Maybe this game will help him out in his developement.
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw

Ahh leave it to schizophrenic Blazer fans. Either we MUST hate him or we MUST love him. There will be no variance!!!

Travis has always had a world of potential but there are other offsetting factors that limit him reaching that potential.

Yes, he shoots great. But he also shoots a ton - at least in the games I've seen he's a mini-black hole. I suppose on our team that's necessary at times.

Yes, he can really block shots and hustle on D. The problem is he's often out of position or makes some weird rotations. I don't know if that's Nate or Outlaw or his teammates or him trying to do too much or what.

I'm happy he won the game for us. I don't expect him to break out as a starter anytime soon and I have absolutely no expectations he'll ever be 6th man of the year. He is what he is and sometimes it works. He played a great game last night but to read anything else into one game (positive or negative) is just ridiculous.
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