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12-09-2007, 12:08 PM
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw
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I go by the numbers, and a 6th man who you think is terrible putting up 20 on a Top 10 team in defensive scoring is impressive IMO, especially considering both Shaq and Wade were playing.
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Where did I EVER say Travis is "terrible". Quote me.
"Impressive." No, it isn't. Wade is hobbling, and Shaq is playing like he has cement shoes. Riley has no choice but to play them to see if they can play their way back into shape. Watching that game, I can tell you, it would have been a dogfight if Riley had Shaq and Wade in streetclothes and he had gameplanned a different way. Miami kicked our *** running a small lineup.
As I have already said, PPG, either scored or allowed has very little to do with the quality level of the offense or defense. You can repeat it 100 times if you like. Still won't change the fact that it is more indicative of pace. And Miami is NOT a good defensive team.
If you think it is impressive, that's cool. People delude themselves about lots of things. Mostly little harm comes of it. Little harm will come of you thinking Travis is a proven stud scorer that can drop on anyone and any team.
Me, I will wait until Travis actually looks good against a couple of quality opponents before I call him something other than what he has been the last couple of seasons.
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12-09-2007, 01:01 PM
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw
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Where did I EVER say Travis is "terrible". Quote me.
"Impressive." No, it isn't. Wade is hobbling, and Shaq is playing like he has cement shoes. Riley has no choice but to play them to see if they can play their way back into shape. Watching that game, I can tell you, it would have been a dogfight if Riley had Shaq and Wade in streetclothes and he had gameplanned a different way. Miami kicked our *** running a small lineup.
As I have already said, PPG, either scored or allowed has very little to do with the quality level of the offense or defense. You can repeat it 100 times if you like. Still won't change the fact that it is more indicative of pace. And Miami is NOT a good defensive team.
If you think it is impressive, that's cool. People delude themselves about lots of things. Mostly little harm comes of it. Little harm will come of you thinking Travis is a proven stud scorer that can drop on anyone and any team.
Me, I will wait until Travis actually looks good against a couple of quality opponents before I call him something other than what he has been the last couple of seasons.
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Outlaw put up 18 points and 11 rebounds on San Antonio. What is the excuse for that game? Why not give the guy some credit for his solid 5 game stretch?
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12-09-2007, 01:11 PM
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw
I'm very happy for Outlaw, but let's remember this: in 1992 (iirc, maybe have been 1991 or 1993) even Mark Bryant had a 5 game stretch where he was scoring 20 a game.
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12-09-2007, 04:02 PM
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw
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I'm very happy for Outlaw, but let's remember this: in 1992 (iirc, maybe have been 1991 or 1993) even Mark Bryant had a 5 game stretch where he was scoring 20 a game.
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Link?
Mark Bryant was 23 yrs. old when he entered the league. Here's a link of Mark averaging 20 for 6 games when he was almost 31 yrs. old.
http://www.databasebasketball.com/pl...lkid=BRYANMA01
Unlike alot of this board I like Travis alot and don't believe he's destined to be a career backup.
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12-09-2007, 06:56 PM
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw
Outlaw - 20 pts and 14-16 on FTs against the Bucks.
16 FT ATTEMPTS!!!
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12-09-2007, 07:01 PM
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw
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Link?
Mark Bryant was 23 yrs. old when he entered the league. Here's a link of Mark averaging 20 for 6 games when he was almost 31 yrs. old.
http://www.databasebasketball.com/pl...lkid=BRYANMA01
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It might have been 1990-91. Sorry, but I know he had a great streak as a Blazer for a few games.
Travis? He's really showing some moxie. I love what he's doing.
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12-09-2007, 09:41 PM
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw
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Little harm will come of you thinking Travis is a proven stud scorer that can drop on anyone and any team.
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Umm, he CAN drop on anyone and any team. There isn't a guy in the NBA who can stop his jumper. If Travis wants to gaet his shot off, it will happen, and he will be able to get a decent look at it. The question is, will it fall or not.
He's doing great with his consistency lately, which has always been his major knock, so that is still his biggest problem even though he's improving tremendously.
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12-09-2007, 09:43 PM
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw
PS
I hate being right, there is nothing left to argue about on these boards!!
(not directed towards anyone specific)
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12-09-2007, 09:49 PM
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw
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I hate being right, there is nothing left to argue about on these boards!!
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I am right there with you. Outlaw will be one of the top 5 scorers in the NBA off of the bench. With his rebounding thrown in and his contract, what a bargain!
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12-10-2007, 12:37 AM
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw
Another great night by Outlaw. His shot wasn't falling but he got to the line and he made his shots there. 14-16!! Woohoo!!!
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12-12-2007, 10:24 PM
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Is he consistent enough yet? No more "Travis Outhouse" folks. Also-- the thread was supposed to be called "No more hating ON Outlaw" but I'm liking the way it is now.
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12-12-2007, 10:26 PM
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw
Travis has arrived.
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12-13-2007, 09:46 AM
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw
I didn't see the game, but just looking at the stat line Outlaw had a very nice game. And this came against a team that plays very good defense especially when Jackson is in the lineup. Props to him. And for the other good games he has had.
I hope he keeps it up.
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12-15-2007, 01:13 AM
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Re: No more hating out Outlaw
21 points on 10 shots with 6 rebounds/2 assists/2 steals/+15 for the game in under 28 minutes.
He stinks. 
I am sure all of the experts here will change their opinion in due time.
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