alext42083

I would disagree... Jarrett Jack is one of the worst open court players in the league. There's been so many instances where he gets stripped, he misses a layup or just turns the ball over on a bad pass and makes a bad decision.

But I do think he generally cares about the game and winning, and wants to get better. He's a nice guard to have off the bench, plays pretty good defense and has a good knack of penetration and finding guys on the outside.
I do notice though that he falls to the ground a lot.

But anyway, on the fast break, Jack has some improvement to make..

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BlazerFan22

I can see Roy as the PG for the future for the Blazers. I can also see Jack being trade bait near trade deadline. Thare are many teams that could use a gaurd like JJ he will draw interest around the league. Should make for some good discussion especially if the Blazers are in the mix for a playoff picture.

darkhelmit54

For all you hear Quick, Nate, or himself talk about him and his leadership how often do you hear other players talk about Jarret leading them and being tough? He seems like that kid who always kisses coaches butt and plays hard but his teammates really are cynical of his advice and "pumping them up" all the time.

darkhelmit54

Well, Webster is three years younger than Jack and has never really gotten the chance to have plays run for him and be a weapon where Jack has been given tons of freedom and responsibility for three seasons now. Outlaw is only a year younger but still hasn't had the same opportunities as Jack before. Both are less cocky too and always talking about leadership while not backing it up on the court. And Jack is in front of Sergio who nate must hate because he's been playing well lately but getting no time.

MARIS61

Ditto, happens every game pretty much.

He'll pass up a wide open 3, dribble around awhile so Sergio won't get an assist, then try to go 1 on 3 and TO the ball.

Hugely unprofessional, and it's only going to hasten his exit from the Blazers.

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Draco

I guess with ZBo gone the fans need a new Blazer to rip on.

I wonder who it'll be when Jack leaves?

mook

also, Webster and Outlaw have tons of upside. Jack isn't uber-athletic, hasn't demonstrated any great court vision, and isn't a brilliant shooter. he's a lot like Nate was, a hard-nosed combo guard who tries hard and wants to be a leader. he's just not as talented as Nate was. he is what he'll probably always be--a good combo guard role player.

wastro

If Jack really is as bad as a lot of you say he is, why will there be any interest around the trading deadline? And look at what we got for Zach -- do you REALLY think we could get something even approaching that for Jack? Especially if he's really as bad as you think?

I don't think Jarrett's been freezing Sergio out of plays any more than anyone else. You can't tell me, with a straight face, that Nate would allow that to, not only happen, but CONTINUE over the course of several games. It doesn't matter how much he likes Jack or whatever. But Nate -- or any other coach worth his salt -- wouldn't let that happen or continue.

darkhelmit54

Like you'd want to believe that was happening as a coach, or let it get out to the media if there was problems like that. There are all kinds of personal politics in NBA players, no doubt. After Garnett was traded the owner of the timberwolves gave an interview and talked about Kevin freezing out Ricky Davis and not getting in on position during certain plays to make him look dumb, which caused Ricky to be more selfish. I'm sure it's not in an obvious way but you can bet players have favorites, rivals, and competetion on their own team.

If they want to trade him, bringing attention to his tiff's, emotional side, or unwillingness to take a small role isn't exactly good marketing. They'll keep playing him hoping to keep his value afloat, however that SCREWS Sergio.

Jack is not a horrible player, we're not saying that. He just needs to be in a half-court system with post players, and he needs to be relied upon to score. We don't want to play half-court, we have better scorers and scorers off the bench, (Roy, Aldridge) (Outlaw, James Jones), and better PG's. He doesn't fit here at all. I think he could fit fine in Miami, New York, or many other teams as the sixth or seventh guy. It's no secret we have too many young guys to develop, other teams may want what doesn't fit here, a cheap investment.

POR - NY
Jack, Miles, Lafrentz, a second rounder for Jones, Starbury, Rose

you can argue bad PR, but I think it would end up net positive. The good PR of dumping Darius, getting back jones offsets the bad PR of Starbury (even though he's bought out) and getting rid of Jack. No one cares about Lafrentz.

Blake/Sergio
Roy/Jones
Webster/Jones
Aldridge/Outlaw
Pryzbilla/Frye

then

Roy/Sergio
Fernandez/? (would either Jones be re-signed?)
Webster/Outlaw
Aldridge/Frye/Mcroberts
Oden/Pryzbilla

hasoos

Jack would be fine if he would just play shooting guard, and stop trying to play point guard. He just needs to simplify his game, and then let the rest come as he gets experience.

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Utherhimo

why do so many want to trade for NYC junk?

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darkhelmit54

I wouldn't say Fred Jones is junk, he'd be a lot better backup SG than Jarret Jack and if we want to be in the playoffs this year it makes sense. Jones could play good perimeter D and really help us on the break, and put Sergio in a better position to succeed overall by playing better with guys who are off the ball and good on the break. Our shooting is coming from the 3/4 position anyways. This would set us up for more cap room in 09, and are we trading away anything but junk anyways? I know Raef is a big winner but...

wastro

If you compare Fred's and Jarrett's stats this season, they're almost the same player. It's really not that far off.

But we're not trading Miles, no matter how much we want to, and we're not taking Starbury, no matter how much New York wants to.

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