darkhelmit54

Webster is much younger, has superior size and athleticism, and is already much better on defense. Care to reconsider? Redd was a second round pick whom no one then thought was capable of what he is doing right now.

hasoos

Absolutely not. Redd is one of the worst defenders in the league. He easily gives up as much as he scores.

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craigehlo

One of the worst defenders? That's an overstatement. Defense isn't his calling card, but it's not far off from other SGs like Ray Allen. His assist and rebounds have really improved this year now that he's started a to train in the off season and lost about 15lbs from 2006/2007.

That being said, there's no way we trade for him w/o giving up either Roy/LMA/Oden. Still a combo of Roy & Redd would be on par with Ray Allen & Paul Pierce in terms of a matchup nightmare.

MrJayremmie

I wouldn't wanna touch the chemistry.

While it is appealing to get rid of some extra players and our pick for a good player, with Rudy comin' over... i just don't know. Sergio off the team, Rudy having Redd infront of him might not please Fernandez... imo.

I think we are fine now.

Five5even

Websters Draft position is irrelevant to this trade scenario. Heck, noone thought that Gilbert Arenas was going to be any good, or Carlos Boozer. Likewise, the reverse is true. There are plenty of sleepers and plenty of busts (ahem...Darko...) in every draft year. And im not saying that Webster is a bust by any means. However if we were offered Redd for Webster, Jack, Raef and a first rd pick i would probably go ahead and do it.

We already have a logjam at PG, so removing Jarrett from the team will free up time for Sergio to develop. Raef is useless at this point and IMO Webster has a ceiling probably equivalent to where Michael Redd is right now.

And please dont fool yourself...Webster isnt a good defender at all. If we traded for Redd we wouldnt be losing much defensive firepower. And with Oden next year, we can afford to have mediocre defenders on the perimeter.

Take into account John Hollingers Player Efficiency Ratings on the NBA.

Redd is rated 7th among active SG's and Webster is ranked 42nd among SF's. If you need a detailed description of what PER is take a look at this link. The average NBA PER is 15, webster is listed at 12.34 and Redd at 20.98.

Don't get me wrong, i think webster is going to be a force in this league. I just think that if the opportunity to land a player of Redd's quality we should take it. Because I am unsure if we will have the chance to get anyone better in 2009.

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deanwoof

michael redd is so overrated as an underrated player (make sense?).

watching him on team usa made me want to puke. everytime he touched the ball, he shot it. granted he hit a good portion of his shots at a shorter distance, i dont think he would fit in with the TEAM mentality foundation we have started here.

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I don't see why you say he would not fit the team mentality. He has never had any issues on or off the court and has not been an ego type of person. He has been asked (and paid) to be the teams first option and does everything he is asked to do. He is an incredible scorer who can shoot (like others on our team) but can also slash and play very well without the ball, something that is very needed on the Blazers. He can also drive like Roy or Jarrett which will be needed once/if Jack is gone as Jones/Webster are not very good at creating their own shots and Outlaw is just learning this skill. Redd is also a good scorer in clutch time, scoring 46.6 points per 48 in clutch play (based on last 5 minutes of play and overtimes). He would also be another solid Vet that can be relied on by our youth. His D is his biggest drawback but i would expect Nate to be able to help him develop a little in this area. And as others have stated, with Oden, Aldridge, Jones and Outlaw at the Forward and Center positions, and with Roy beginning to become a good defender, I think having one weak defender would not be the that bad considering all the positives that Redd would bring.

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mook

Rip Hamilton was supposedly a lousy defender until he joined the Pistons.
Ray Allen and Paul Pierce were below average defenders until this year's Celtics.
There certainly is a precedent for poorly defending/high offense shooting guards suddenly drastically improving when put on the right team. Not hard to imagine Redd showing marked improvement on defense.

Iwatas

*IF* we can trade quantity for quality (some combo of Frye/Raef/Jack/Pick(s)/Miles/Green/Webster), then Redd would be amazing here. He would get a lot more open looks in Portland than he does in Milwaukee, meaning that he would surely shoot a higher percentage and be much more deadly to opposing teams.

I am for it. If they need Outlaw or Sergio, then I would start to doubt the deal.

iWatas

GOD

Very true, I don't think he has ever played for a Defensive type team or coach. I don't see any reason he would not become a decent defender given the right situation and coaching. His favorite player ever is Drexler, so my guess is that he grew up somewhat of a Blazer fan and would get a kick out of playing for us.

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PapaG

Having an Oden/Joel center combo in the middle will help balance out any perimeter defensive issues.

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Five5even

I would be reluctant to trade outlaw because of how clutch he has been lately as well as how versatile he is by being able to play 3 positions. Sergio on the other hand I would be willing to part with if it was absolutely necessary, simply because we have essentially an endless supply of young talent at the Point Guard Position.

Raef, 1st rd Pick, Webster, and either Jack/sergio/green/kopponen would definitely be considered in my book as a legit trade scenario.

I wouldnt get rid of outlaw, jones, fernandez or frye though.

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GOD

I agree with you on Outlaw. Not that a talent for talent swap of Outlaw and Redd would not be worth it, but we would also be taking on Redds deal and giving up on Outlaws sweet deal. Outlaw, as you pointed out, is also clutch, and needed in the 4th.

I would consider dealing out Jones in the deal however. Redd would replace his shooting while Outlaw would still be a very good defender at SF. My first choice out of our SF's would be to get rid of Webster, but Jones would be available if I were GM. This is not a knock on Webster as I think he has a legit future in the league. I just think that the Blazers have enough other youthful pieces and I'm ready for the Blazers to make a run for the championship and Redd would help a lot more than Webster.

Rudy I agree is off the table at this moment. I don't know why, but I just want him to stay a Blazer. Could prove a dumb mistake, but I am really excited about this kid.

Frye would be on the Block if it were up to me but I don't think the Bucks would be looking to get him since they have Bogut, Yi and CV. Frye has been a breath of fresh air as of late, and I think he will continue to increase his trade value. But, next year with the return of Oden, his minutes will be even more limited. Oden/Joel will take almost all the minutes at Center and Aldridge will take 35 minutes at PF. The remaining 13 minutes can be covered by Outlaw, Jones, Miles, McBob. But perhaps it would be best to keep Frye for another year till Aldridge and Oden have a little more time to become stars. Then, Frye could be a big trade piece.

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