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Old 01-29-2008, 11:14 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Chris Broussard ESPN reports...

The only way I could get this to work was to involve a lot of players since Jason Kidd gets paid so damn much money.

Here is what I used for my idea on what each team would want:

1. Dallas wants Kidd without gutting the main players of their team, they can lose a PG due to Kidd playing that position.

2. NJ wants expiring contracts and young talent, or guys they can buy out or cut to save cash.

3. Portland wants to improve and get rid of some logjams at some certain positions.

So here is what I came up with. Remembering the fact that when players demand a trade, most of the time the team they are on gets totally jobbed on the trade because they are in a bad position.

Dallas
Incoming
Jason Kidd

Outgoing
Jerry Stackhouse
Brandon Bass
Eddie Jones
Devin Harris

New Jersey:
Outgoing:
Jason Kidd
Shawn Williams

Incoming:
Jarrett Jack
Josh Mcroberts
Taurean Green
Darius Miles
Eddie Jones
Jerry Stackhouse

Portland:
Incoming:
Devin Harris
Brandon Bass
Shawn Williams

Now here is the thing, I wouldn't do this trade if I was NJ or Dallas, especially with the way Dallas is playing right now, even if it was before Harris was injured. The only reason the trade is the way it is, is because with Kidds absolutely huge salary, I had to keep adding players in order to make up the money. It gets really hard when Dallas is bringing in a single player making almost 20 million a year to make it work.

That is why right now, I really doubt it will happen.
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:22 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Portland Trades
Jarrett Jack, Martel Webster and Raef Lafrenz
Portland Receives
Eric Dampier, Devin Harris

Dallas Trades
Eric Dampier, Devin Harris, Jerry Stackhouse
Dallas Receives
Jason Kidd, Jason Collins

NJ Trades
Jason Kidd, Jason Collins
NJ Receives
Raef Lafrenz, Martell Webster, Jarrett Jack, Jerry Stackhouse and some Picks (Portland 2009, Dallas 2008, 2010)
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:27 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Have you seen Erica's contract? Harris isn't worth that much, especially if we're also giving up Webster in that deal.
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:30 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Yes I have seen his contract. If we take in Harris our capspace ideal of 2009 is dead anyway.
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:33 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Harris would be fine, but then Sergio will not be in the long term plan on this team IMO. Blake moves to the backup PG..then what, Rudy Fernandez won't be able to crack the starting rotation and becomes a 6th man backup to Roy?

I like Harris....but I don't know if I'd trade Webster as we will need as many spot up shooters as we can when Oden is down on the block drawing them triple teams.

What is the rotation next season at the guard spot then?
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Just so everyone knows...there is no linkage, only from what I heard having watched NBA Coast to Coast on ESPN2. Chris Broussard brought the trade up and mentioned Portland as part of the 3 way deal with Dallas and New Jersey
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Portland Trades
Jarrett Jack, Martel Webster and Raef Lafrenz
Portland Receives
Eric Dampier, Devin Harris

Dallas Trades
Eric Dampier, Devin Harris, Jerry Stackhouse
Dallas Receives
Jason Kidd, Jason Collins

NJ Trades
Jason Kidd, Jason Collins
NJ Receives
Raef Lafrenz, Martell Webster, Jarrett Jack, Jerry Stackhouse and some Picks (Portland 2009, Dallas 2008, 2010)
I really like the thought of adding Devin Harris but I hate the thought of loseing Martell. I don't mind loseing JJ or Reaf I think Harris and Roy would make a vary good back court. Erik Dampier has a HUGE contract and I don't know whare he fits with Joel when Oden comes back although I think that Dampier would make a nice backup to Oden. I hate to see a 13 million dollar man siting on the bench
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Re: Chris Broussard ESPN reports...

Im fine trading Webster. He's progressing but the kid can't create his own shot at all. We have Outlaw, he can't just stay a 6th man for his career, nor can Webster. So we clear the logjam a little bit and bring in a stud young PG.

Harris/Blake/Sergio
Roy/Fernandez/Jones
Outlaw/Fernandez/Jones
LMA/Frye/Outlaw
Oden/Pryz/Frye
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:56 AM   #41 (permalink)
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OK, so here is my attempt at a trade. my idea

Dallas Incoming
Jason Kidd - The best player in the deal.

New Jersey Incoming
Raef Lafrentz - 12 mil coming off their books by 09 offseason
Sergio - Young exciting cheap player
James Jones - Good player short term, savings long term from expiring.
Stackhouse - a decent player and the only real contract brought back, still expiring in time for LeBron sweepstakes.

Portland incoming
Devin Harris - Our new starting PG
Dampier - An expensive backup C and the cost of the trade

A pick may be added from both Dallas and the Blazers to NJ. I think this deal is fair and does not mortgage our youth, although it does completely kill the cap 09 plan.
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well I posted this one yesterday and it seems to make some sense in theory, and it works under the cap.

Devin Harris would be a perfect fit next to Roy, lockdown defense, awesome on the break, nice size, physical, we'd have incredible defense, we'd just have to be patient with Roy and him developing their shots. I would love a five player rotation at the 1-3 of Roy, Harris, Webster, Sergio, Rudy with no one needing to play a certain position necessarily. I'd do a trade like this and throw in our first to get it done because Harris is locked up long-term and Dallas' window is closing...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...6~17&te=&cash=

New Jersey still clears quite a bit of salary with Kidd and gets a new start in a way with almost all shorter term contracts left on the books other than Terry, Jefferson, and Carter who are all reasonably tradeable (especially in the next couple of years as their contracts get shorter) if they tried to make a major move for Lebron in FA (which I could see), we could send them our pick for this year too. I think our cake would have it's frosting already just need to wait for it to mature and age well. Sergio would need to get more consistent, Martell would need to get more consistent, and Harris would need to develop more of a jumper, but I'd love it. Jones would be a decent mentor figure for the rest of the year he was here, and Jamaal could supply some of that gnarly toughness we've been looking for. Not sure how KP's conscience would handle trading Blake again but I think
Harris could make us forget about it.

this year
Harris/Sergio/Green
Roy/Jones
Webster/Jones/Mcroberts
LMA/Outlaw/Frye
Pryzbilla/LMA/Magloire

next year...

Harris/Sergio/Green
Roy/Rudy
Webster/Jones/Mcroberts
LMA/Outlaw/Frye
Oden/Pryzbilla

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In today's NJ paper:

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The Nets are discussing a complicated three-team scenario with the Mavericks and Blazers in which Kidd would go to Dallas, league sources said.

In return, the Nets would get back young players (Jarrett Jack and Travis Outlaw), expiring contracts (Devean George, DeSagana Diop), Jerry Stackhouse, draft picks and cash. More players, including other Nets, would be involved.
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So I assume we'd be getting Harris for Jack and TO? I'd seriously consider that.
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