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yuyuza1 · 02-14-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mediocre man

I'd take Daniel Gibson, a draft pick, a trade exception, or future a future pick for the human turnover

I was just thinking about this. The Cavs have David Wesley's $1.75 million trade exception. Say we acquire this for Jack.

Can we then use the same TE as a trading piece in another deal?

Reep · 02-14-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by c_note

Pavolovic sure would look good in a Blazer uni.

He's not a great shooter, but he's very athletic and has a high bball IQ.
Would be a steal for the Blazers.

SI's Anti-All-Star reserves

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F: Sasha Pavlovic, Cavaliers -- After failing to re-sign with Cleveland until Nov. 1, Pavlovic has given more than a few Cavs fans reason to wish he had remained a holdout. The 24-year-old's attack on shooting accuracy from the floor (35.1 percent) and from behind the arc (28.4 percent) was stopped by a foot injury sustained in late January. LeBron James and Co. can only hope his next return to the lineup is a happier one.

Maybe a good deal on damaged goods? Doesn't look very appealing though.

**Schilly** · 02-14-2008, 03:22 PM

Trade exception and a draft pick IMO.

e_blazer1 · 02-14-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by yuyuza1

I was just thinking about this. The Cavs have David Wesley's $1.75 million trade exception. Say we acquire this for Jack.

Can we then use the same TE as a trading piece in another deal?

You can't combine exceptions when making a trade. IIRC, if we traded Jack away say for a future pick, we'd get a TE in the amount of Jack's salary this year ($1.2 mil) which could be used to trade for another player making not more than 125% plus $100K of that amount. Not much chance of adding anything of consequence for that kind of money.

ROYisR.O.Y. · 02-14-2008, 03:37 PM

jack/miles for snow/and one of newble/brown (expiring)

yuyuza1 · 02-14-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by e_blazer1

You can't combine exceptions when making a trade. IIRC, if we traded Jack away say for a future pick, we'd get a TE in the amount of Jack's salary this year ($1.2 mil) which could be used to trade for another player making not more than 125% plus $100K of that amount. Not much chance of adding anything of consequence for that kind of money.

Thanks, but I didn't say trade Jack for a pick and create a TE. I said trade Jack for the Cavs' existing TE. Can we then use that TE to acquire another player from a different team?

e_blazer1 · 02-14-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by yuyuza1

Thanks, but I didn't say trade Jack for a pick and create a TE. I said trade Jack for the Cavs' existing TE. Can we then use that TE to acquire another player from a different team?

It doesn't work that way. Teams get a TE anytime they take back less in salary than they send out. The TE isn't a tradeable commodity, it can just be used to acquire a player later that would have fit within the salary matching requirements of the CBA if it had been done originally as a 3-way deal. The CBA refers to these types of deals as non-simultaneous trades.

yuyuza1 · 02-14-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by e_blazer1

It doesn't work that way. Teams get a TE anytime they take back less in salary than they send out. The TE isn't a tradeable commodity, it can just be used to acquire a player later that would have fit within the salary matching requirements of the CBA if it had been done originally as a 3-way deal. The CBA refers to these types of deals as non-simultaneous trades.

That's what I wanted to know. Thanks.

**Schilly** · 02-14-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by e_blazer1

It doesn't work that way. Teams get a TE anytime they take back less in salary than they send out. The TE isn't a tradeable commodity, it can just be used to acquire a player later that would have fit within the salary matching requirements of the CBA if it had been done originally as a 3-way deal. The CBA refers to these types of deals as non-simultaneous trades.

Yes and no... The Cavs would use their Trade exception to acquire Jack which would then generate a Trade exception for us for Jacks salary value, since we wouldn't be taking salary back. We would then have 1 year to use it.

So while specifically now we wouldn't get their TE a new one would generate for us.

hasoos · 02-14-2008, 04:04 PM

I believe Varejo would help the team out. He rebounds, defends. He would be a double digit rebounder if he got more minutes, but big Z eats most of them up.

e_blazer1 · 02-14-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Schilly

Yes and no... The Cavs would use their Trade exception to acquire Jack which would then generate a Trade exception for us for Jacks salary value, since we wouldn't be taking salary back. We would then have 1 year to use it.

So while specifically now we wouldn't get their TE a new one would generate for us.

I believe that's what I said above, Schilly.

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You can't combine exceptions when making a trade. IIRC, if we traded Jack away say for a future pick, we'd get a TE in the amount of Jack's salary this year ($1.2 mil) which could be used to trade for another player making not more than 125% plus $100K of that amount. Not much chance of adding anything of consequence for that kind of money.

But always good to have another capologist looking it over.

Perfection · 02-14-2008, 04:10 PM

Varejo can't be traded until the summer because he signed too late into the season. He's a Cav until the summer at the earliest.

**Schilly** · 02-14-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by e_blazer1

I believe that's what I said above, Schilly.

But always good to have another capologist looking it over.

Oops sorry, hadn't noticed your other explanation.

ebott · 02-14-2008, 04:18 PM

I see we're beating this dead horse again.

The only possible deal that appeals to me is ROYisR.O.Y.'s idea of using Jack to dump Miles. That would give us a real 9 mil in cap space for 2009 without having to dump anybody. Dump Channing Frye and Steve Blake and that's enough cap space for a max contract.

Oden/Przybilla
LaMarcus/Outlaw
Webster/?
Roy/Rudy
?/Sergio

Add in our picks the next two years and a top notch free agent and we're sittin pretty.

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