crowTrobot

would conley ever be able to defend the tony parkers chris paulses baron davises and the deron williamseses of the west?

NewAgeBaller

To this team..

Outlaw > Miller > Webster.

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Boob-No-More

Yes, he would - about 10x better than anyone we currently have on our roster. Conley Jr. is an excellent on-the-ball defender, extremely athletic and very strong.

But, the point is moot. He's one of the young guys Memphis is building around, not someone they're looking to trade.

BNM

KingSpeed

Dude... this is not to offend you. It's not trash talk, but why is Miami so bad? I honestly don't get it. How does a team go from championship to a team that is unable to win 10 games before the All Star break while still having its best player? How does that happen? And like I think I've told you before, I rooted for them in 06 and it was a great run. But this is one of the most mindboggling stories every in the history of the NBA. 9 wins? I just don't get it. I think it will work out in the long run though. You should get a great pick and the team should bounce back because Wade is a stud.

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HOWIE

This is why I don't like the name Outlaw being mentioned in the trade. I could live with Webster, Frye, of course Raef would have to be in there and some picks for Miller & Conley. Maybe Memphis would be intersted in Sergio? I'm sure that there is going to be alot of speculation over the next6 days. If you coul dget Darko for Frye that would be kinda intersting.

If Portland is talking to Memphis Miller is the guy they are after, he shoots over 50% from behind the arch and would move right into the starting role IMO. Memphis let Gasol go for nothing which is why I wouldn't pay out huge for a deal with them. Portland does have young players and a lot of second rounds and cash they could throw their way.

Maybe they move Jack to Cleveland for a trade exceptiona and........oh man........this is going to be interesting.

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crowTrobot

well.433 anyway lol, which is very good.

i dunno though - he's a below average defender and turns the ball over as much as jack. outlaw is really a better all-around fit for us at SF - he just needs to start there (broken record).

moldorf

I have no clue how credible MM is with this rumor, however....

for the purposes of conjecture, assume that the short-term goal(next 2 seasons) of Memphis is to shed some long-term contracts.

Then make a further assumption that Portland's stated desire for cap-space in 2009 has faded with the dawning reality that the list of likely free agents that summer is unimpressive, and that several teams besides portland will also have substantial cap-space.

Then I can see a couple of trade possibilities that might interest both teams.

Portland sends Raef Lafrentz, James Jones, & Jarret Jack

for

Mike Miller, Kyle Lowry, & Brian Cardinal

For Memphis, that gets an extra year of the Miller and Cardinal off their books as well as moving the PG they are apparently interested in moving. Jones replaces Miller as far as outside shooting in their lineup, and Jack as a combo-guard is better then their current 4 PG mix.

Portland may actually not want this trade because when healthy, Jones has a better all-around game when defense is considered. And Cardinal is useless to them. Lowry is an upgrade as far as a backup PG, but he's a lousy perimeter shooter...something that would be a poor backcourt match for Roy.

So I don't think portland would do that deal unless Lowry was replaced in the trade with Conley. But memphis would likely balk at that. Portland might have to send their 2009 1st round pick to possibly convince memphis.

Portland sends Lafrentz, Jones, Jack, and their 2009 1st round (lottery protected)

for

Miller, Conley, & Cardinal

Looking at those 2 trades, the chances are Portland would say no to the first and Memphis would say no to the second. But you never know.

Cinco de Mayo

Memphis. Is. Not. Trading. Mike. Conley.

The only way Conley would be on the block is if the Grizzlies drafted Derrick Rose in June. Until then, he and Rudy Gay aren't going anywhere.

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nikolokolus

^^ I agree, there's no way Conley is moving in a trade with us. As nice of a story as it would be to have GO and Conley reunited, he's an ideal piece for Memphis going forward -- small contract, producing beyond his salary, and a great complimentary piece with Rudy Gay as a great potential backcourt of the future.

moldorf

I would assume probably that's correct and I certainly implied that in my post.

However...after the Gasol trade, flatly stating that Memphis "won't trade this player for that player" or that a certain player is 'untouchable' simply isn't credible.

But assuming Gay and Conley, and to a lesser extent Darko, are the core for the moment, that still leaves portland room to make a deal for a package that includes Miller.

And if it's true that Memphis is 'insisting' that Cardianl is part of any Miller deal, then memphis isn't going to be getting a lot in return other then expiring contracts this summer or the next.

HOWIE

Well to be fair it was a stat from NBA.com. Might not have been updated in awhile. I'd like to get Miller, but I also want to keep Outlaw.

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ehizzy3

i'd trade outlaw for miller..

hasoos

Man this trade has good and bad sides as far as I can tell. Millers would be an upgrade for offensive side of the ball, but he sucks defensivly. He ends up on the bad side of more ESPN highlight's all the time. He is a good role player though. He would also be a vet that could teach younger players.

As for Outlaw, quit over valuing him folks. Sure he has won us games this year. But until he becomes consistent, he is just another streaky player. The one common denominator when you look at the good teams is consistency. Guys show up and every night you know what you are going to get from them. Remember when the Blazers were good, you knew what you were going to get every night. Clylde 25. Porter 18. Jerome 14. Buck 12 Duck 12. Cliff 14. Ainge 16. All day long. Now what do we have? Well Outlaw scores 13 but he does it all in the 4th. Martell, you might get 4, you might get 24. Aldrige is it a 6 point night or a 26 point night. Its a mystery. Tune in at game time to find out if more than one player has a game that is worth a damn.

Half of the problems the team is having would go away if the players would just nut up and hit their open shots, and if they aren't hitting, learn to get to the rim. Right now if the shots aren't falling, the young guys are just freezing up, afraid to shoot. Get to the rim. Make something happen.

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Hasoos