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MrJayremmie · 03-07-2008, 12:18 PM

^They predict Westbrook as mid 1st round from 12-15. If that is who we want, and we land the 13th pick, to trade up 1 or 2 spots, with all our 2nds, unneeded future picks, and lots of extra players, should be pretty easy, no?

I really like Westbrook. Best part isn't his quickness to get into the lane, not his defense, not hsi explosiveness or athleticism, not his potential to be a beast and a great PG, but my favorite part about him is that he is a winner, like how we got Roy, Aldridge and Oden, they were all winners in college, and that is their mindset.

Also i like him because, as you said bro, he would be the best fit next to Roy, imo. But it would probably take a year or 2, which is fine, because in a year or 2 we will start hittin' our peak!

mediocre man · 03-07-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MrJayremmie

^They predict Westbrook as mid 1st round from 12-15. If that is who we want, and we land the 13th pick, to trade up 1 or 2 spots, with all our 2nds, unneeded future picks, and lots of extra players, should be pretty easy, no?

I really like Westbrook. Best part isn't his quickness to get into the lane, not his defense, not hsi explosiveness or athleticism, not his potential to be a beast and a great PG, but my favorite part about him is that he is a winner, like how we got Roy, Aldridge and Oden, they were all winners in college, and that is their mindset.

Also i like him because, as you said bro, he would be the best fit next to Roy, imo. But it would probably take a year or 2, which is fine, because in a year or 2 we will start hittin' our peak!

Who is they?

nbadraft.net has him at #9

MrJayremmie · 03-07-2008, 12:31 PM

^espn. NBA draft had him around 14 a week ago.. odd.

But yea, the ESPN draft guy, and that draft machine thing had him at 13. Should be easy to snatch him, imo.

MAS RipCity · 03-07-2008, 06:52 PM

we have a gillion 2nd round picks and cash..wont be hard to move up to 10ish

MrJayremmie · 03-07-2008, 07:04 PM

^thats what i think also man. If Westbrook is the guy they want, should be overall pretty easy to snatch him. Rose or Bayless would be hard, cuz we'd need to move into the top 5, so unless we want to give a future 1st, our 1st, a 2nd, and like Jack and maybe another player, i highly doubt it will happen.

**BEEZ** · 03-07-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayps15

I'm still highest on Eric Gordon's talent and potential, but I've accepted that he's probably way out of our reach in the draft. I've mostly started to warm up to Westbrook as a prospect. Bayless is good, but he plays similiarly to Gordon, just with less size and better passing.

I dont think you would find many who says that him and Eric Gordon play alike at all.

**BEEZ** · 03-07-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Minstrel

I think OJ Mayo is the best bang for the buck. He's the best combination of big talent and likelihood to drop to the lower lottery. Attitude or not (and I think talk of it is exaggerated), Mayo has superstar potential. He also has a great outside shot right out of the box, which would be a HUGE asset for Portland. Since he's expected to go in the 9-12 range, he wouldn't require a big trade up. A very minor move could net us a low cost high upside gamble.

I'd prefer that to spending a lot of talent to move up into top 5 or 6 (let alone the top 3 for Rose)...for players are who arguably only slightly more likely to pan out.

No way Mayo is going to be there at 9. By the way, good to see ya Minstrel

MrJayremmie · 03-11-2008, 10:41 AM

I'm gonna start adding 5 players to this. Will update it twice a week. All are now predicted to go in the Top 10.

Season Stats:
Rose 28 MPG, 14.1 PPG, 4.2 RPG, 4.5 APG, 2.9 TO, 1.3 SPG, 47% FG, 69% FT, 33% 3PT.
Gordon 34.5 MPG, 21.5 PPG, 3.3 RPG, 2.5 APG, 3.6 TO, 1.3 SPG, 45% FG, 85% FT, 36% 3PT.
Bayless 35.7 MPG, 20.3 PPG, 2.7 RPG, 4.2 APG, 3.2 TO, 1 SPG, 47% FG, 83% FT, 41% 3PT.
Westbrook 33.5 MPG, 12.8 PPG, 3.6 RPG, 4.4 APG, 2.6 TO, 1.6 SPG, 49% FG, 72% FT, 49% 3PT.
Mayo 36.6 MPG, 20.9 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 3.1 APG, 3.6 TO, 1.5 SPG, 45% FG, 80% FT, 41% 3PT.

Weaknesses (according to NBADraft.net):

Rose

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Mechanics on his shot are not fluid, so he may need to adjust it some as he sort of slings the ball from his shoulder, though his shot has shown steady improvement … A streaky shooter, can go through cold spells … More effective in an up-tempo game, understands tempo but his speed obviously makes running logical and is still less effective in the half court … Underdeveloped moves off the dribble. He can become more polished creating shots from the perimeter (ala OJ Mayo) … Right now relies almost exclusively on his power, handle, and quickness to get by defenders … Can become a lot better at running the pick and roll … Has the size to post up PGs all day. He shows great strength and intensity inside but has underutilized back to the basket skills … Sometimes appears to be coasting during games, though I believe this is when he is getting a feel for the tempo of the game, and he is reluctant to force things… Not much of a vocal leader, but certainly leads by example. And this is sure to develop with maturity … A year or two in college will do wonders for his grasp of the point guard position. Easily the toughest to master on the NBA level … Had a tendency to rely too much on his athleticism early in his high school career, but has developed other facets of his game …

Gordon

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A little small for the 2 guard position at 6-4, but his freakish athleticism makes up for it ... Lacks great vision, passing ability ... Can become too enamored with the 3 point shot ... His in between game is under utilized because he's so effective from the outside and taking the ball to the basket ... Needs to concentrate on becoming a better passer ... Lack of length may make creating shots difficult ... Should look to get more height on his jump shot ... Must work on becoming more under control driving to the basket ...

Bayless

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Must become better at running the PG position ... More of a scoring point, but his PG abilities are improving ... Can be prone to trying to do too much, must be more patient and composed ... Still hasn't sustained himself as an elite level player for an extended period of time ...

Westbrook

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Playing at UCLA he has had a hard time gaining steady playing time (9 mpg) … He’ll likely come off the bench as a sophomore, but should see increased action … Showing the ability to run the point position as well as play the 2-guard will upgrade his draft potential … Must become better at handling ball pressure at the point guard position ... Must continue to improve his body strength … UCLA system will likely limit his ability to fully showcase himself ... Needs to imprve upon his free throw shooting (55%) ...

Mayo

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The biggest progression he can make to his game is becoming a complete point guard ... Sometimes attacks the game 1-on-5 and forgets about the team game. Must get better at keeping everyone involved and running a team ... He's 6-4 which is excellent size for a PG, but he lacks the ceiling of someone such as LeBron because he isn't able to impose his will physically on bigger players ... Can be too enamored with shooting the three ball and going to the basket, his mid range game is solid but can improve ... Some feel that his development has slowed to an extent towards the end of his high school career ... Had an off court incident, fighting with another student, which raised some red flags, but behavior doesn't seem to be a major issue ... There's the fear that the AAU mentality might overwhelm the concept of team basketball for him ... He benefits being a year older than most of the players in his class ...

Last Game:
Rose (W) 21 Minutes, 5 Points, 5 Rebounds, 11 Assists, 2 TO, 2/8 FG, 1/2 FT, 0/1 3PT.
Gordon (L) 43 Minutes, 26 Points, 5 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 5 TO, 8/24 FG, 6/7 FT, 4/16 3PT.
Bayless (L) 33 Minutes, 19 Points, 1 Rebound, 1 Assist, 2 TO, 6/16 FG, 6/7 FT, 1/6 3PT.
Westbrook (W) 36 Minutes, 18 Points, 2 Rebounds, 4 Assists, 3 TO, 6/12 FG, 5/6 FT, 1/2 3PT.
Mayo (W) 35 Minutes, 25 Points, 8 Rebounds, 4 Assists, 2 TO, 9/19 FG, 5/6 FT, 2/6 3PT.

MrJayremmie · 03-11-2008, 10:47 AM

^I think Mayo had the best game for all their last games.

Reep · 03-11-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MrJayremmie

Last Game:
Rose (W) 21 Minutes, 5 Points, 5 Rebounds, 11 Assists, 2 TO, 2/8 FG, 1/2 FT, 0/1 3PT.
Gordon (L) 43 Minutes, 26 Points, 5 Rebounds, 3 Assists, 5 TO, 8/24 FG, 6/7 FT, 4/16 3PT.
Bayless (L) 33 Minutes, 19 Points, 1 Rebound, 1 Assist, 2 TO, 6/16 FG, 6/7 FT, 1/6 3PT.
Westbrook (W) 36 Minutes, 18 Points, 2 Rebounds, 4 Assists, 3 TO, 6/12 FG, 5/6 FT, 1/2 3PT.
Mayo (W) 35 Minutes, 25 Points, 8 Rebounds, 4 Assists, 2 TO, 9/19 FG, 5/6 FT, 2/6 3PT.

This might be worth starting a new thread, but the most recent games is interesting.

Some thoughts:

Rose: nice to see his assits up, but 2/8 from the field?

Gordon: 4/16 from three? I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone take 16 threes in a game. Chucker? Does he know when to try and drive v. just keep on chucking? The loss hurt as well.

Bayless: 19 pts, 1 asst, 2 t/o, 1/6 on threes? Pure point guard? No.

Westbrook: Solid game.

Mayo: I like him the more I see him. Nice game. NBA ability to get his shot off. Needs to build speed though.

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