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Old 03-13-2008, 02:22 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Against strong competition?
His team lost 4 out of 5.

George Mason: 30/10 Loss
Oregon: 24/12/3 blk Loss
Kansas: 25/6 Won
Kansas: 39/11 Loss
Texas: 30/15 Loss

I don't see Carmelo here--I see Kevin Durant (the one who had great stats, but couldn't lead his team anywhere).

Interesting that in playing Kansas (split two games), K state won when Beasley had a much weaker game (25/6). But when Beasley had 39/11, they lost.

He may end up being a great player, or he may end up as one of those guys who puts up great stats on bad teams. Or, he may end up as a guy without a position. Remember that Durant averaged 11 boards/game against better competition than Beasley faced--and look at his rebounding now.
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Old 03-13-2008, 02:25 PM   #62 (permalink)
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This years draft isn't last years draft, I think that Rose and Beasley are the two top players prior to March Madness. The draft is filled with a ton of roll players. Portland is going to most likely be picking 13th in this draft which screams Euro player. I'd love to move up and get Rose, but I don't see it happening.

I think our best hope is that Memphis lands a top two pick, takes Rose and makes Conley or Lowery expendable. Sure the ping pong balls could fall in our favor, but we got super lucky last year, I don't see it happening this year. If Memphis wins the lottery, there is a good chance we could come out smelling like Roses again.
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RealGM.

And you guys are crazy if you think LMA isn't worth the #1 pick by himself.
Also, ya'll even more crazy for thinking that if LMA was still in college, he wouldn't be the #1 pick.
Do you really want me to take this to the general board? 90% of non-Blazer fans would disagree on both those points, so who's crazy?

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Now you are comparing MB to Barkley and Malone?! I thought he was a small forward???

LoL you just an LMA hater. Go bugger off.

LMA was considered one of the best big men in college in his sophomore year. You think that if he stayed for 2 more years and dominated like he did... he wouldn't be a #1 pick option in this years draft???

That is crazy.
Beasley is 6'9" in shoes with a 9'1" standing reach. He plays PF.

And noones disputing LMA would probably dominate - but do you have any idea how good of a season Beasley is having himself? He's having a historic season, he's broken Melo's double-double record and is making people forget about Durant's season already.
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Howie, I'm not as sold on Conley as most others, but it's still a good point and certainly wouldn't make the Blazers worse.
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Howie, I'm not as sold on Conley as most others, but it's still a good point and certainly wouldn't make the Blazers worse.

Sometime we have to think outside the box when it comes to the lottery. Conley or Lowry would be very interesting with this group of players in Portland. Memphis would have to take Rose, hometown kid, compared to Jason Kidd/ D Wade type of player.

I think Portland is going to be very active. Might not get everything they want, but they'll be active.
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I agree that you should take a time out.
remember when you signed up to post here just a couple days ago? When you did that you agreed not to call other posters names like "*****" or "ignorant". Keep it up and see what happens.
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No, it's a fact easily backed up by stats or watching LA run 5 feet away from the hoop in fear of LeBron James, which cost the Blazer the game.
what stats could you possibly point to? Rebounds, steals and blocks are all looking good to me. Cherry picking a single play as proof of a players ability is silly.
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His body is almost identical to Karl Malone's coming out. You think that's an unsuccessful body type? He's 3" taller than Barkley otherwise that would be the proper comparison.
You picked two historical anomalies. All Malone and Barkley prove is that it is possible to be successful as an undersized power player. Not that it isn't a disadvantage or generally unsuccessful.

Beasley looks like a great talent, but it's crazy to claim that there are no question marks about him. His defense, attitude and work ethic and size are all question marks. His lack of height isn't much of a detriment in the much smaller college game, but it will be a detriment in the NBA, where he'll be shorter than virtually every other power player in the game.

I think Beasley would probably be picked ahead of Aldridge, but I don't think it's a lock that all teams would draft Beasley ahead of Aldridge. A 22 year old Aldridge would be dominating the college game, himself, and he'd have much more prototypical size, at 6'11'.
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Beasley looks like a great talent, but it's crazy to claim that there are no question marks about him.
That was never claimed by anybody. It's crazy to claim that claim was made.
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That depends if NBA scouts were competent enough to realize that LA's defense would not translate to the NBA, and he would actually end up being a below average defender.
If you think Aldridge, at 22, is where he'll "end up," you really have no business calling other people ignorant about basketball.

Of course, Aldridge isn't a "below average" defender even now, but that's a separate point that can't be resolved on a message board. Even if he were, though, your claim that he's "ended up" below average (implying his development is finished and he won't improve) is amazingly silly.
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That was never claimed by anybody. It's crazy to claim that claim was made.
You said "Beasley is right now, already better than LA." The only way you could claim such a thing, about a player dominating collegians in comparison to an NBA player, is by assuming the college player has no question marks in terms of how his success will translate to the NBA.

If you agreed that there are questions about his translation to the NBA game, there's no way to definitively state who is the better player now, since they are competing against such vastly different competition.
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If you think Aldridge, at 22, is where he'll "end up," you really have no business calling other people ignorant about basketball.
I don't think that and never said that. I think there is a serious reading comprehension problem on this board. You say one thing and people assume you mean something completely different.

The hate on this board is amazing. If you say anything not positive about a Blazer player you are attacked non-stop for being a hater.

On this board I'm afraid to say Michael Jordan is the best ever because I'd be attacked for being a Clyde hater.
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Sometime we have to think outside the box when it comes to the lottery. Conley or Lowry would be very interesting with this group of players in Portland.

conley hasn't exactly done anything inspirational so far. seems just as likely to be a semi-bust as a top tier PG.
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