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Old 03-12-2008, 04:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Riley open to trading #1 pick.

Do we have the goods to get it? What would they be?

I think we could package something up nice for ol' Pat! He needs a center. We could trade Joel\Jack\Frye and our pick for Mark Blount and their pick?

I would strongly consider that. Then we take Beasley.

Blake
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That looks to be a pretty nice roster OR.........

Rose
Roy
Webster
LMA
Oden

I think I like Beasley in there better then Rose.
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Old 03-12-2008, 04:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Riley open to trading #1 pick.

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Do we have the goods to get it? What would they be?

I think we could package something up nice for ol' Pat! He needs a center. We could trade Joel\Jack\Frye and our pick for Mark Blount and their pick?

I would strongly consider that. Then we take Beasley.

Blake
Roy
Beasley
LMA
Oden

That looks to be a pretty nice roster OR.........

Rose
Roy
Webster
LMA
Oden

I think I like Beasley in there better then Rose.
There is no way something like that would do it. An absolute minimum would be something like Joel, Outlaw, Fernandez for the Heats #1
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Old 03-12-2008, 04:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Riley open to trading #1 pick.

I'm not sold on any of the top draft picks this year. I don't see any of them as a can't-miss NBA star. Riley probably sees the same thing, which is why he's open to trading.

There may be a diamond in the rough player in this draft, and I trust KP to find that player.

But in terms of Beasley, Bayless, Rose, Lopez and Jordan - I don't know that any of those guys are can't-miss prospects. Not in terms of what I've seen in their games.

There are certain years where there is a consensus top 2 or 3 picks. This isn't one of them.

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Old 03-12-2008, 05:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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There are certain years where there is a consensus top 2 or 3 picks. This isn't one of them.

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I think there is a consensus on the top two, I'm just not sold on either. Beasley had a reputation as being uncoachable and having an attitude. Maybe he matured out of those in college. If so, and if he could legitimately play the three (not like Marion), then he would be worth Outlaw, Sergio, Joel, etc.

However, I don't see Miami giving up the #1 to Portland unless Portland is willing to give up a player higher on the chart than Outlaw (one of the big three), which Portland wouldn't do.

One trade that Miami might consider, but I'm not sure Portland should or not, would be:

Sergio, Fernandez, Joel/Frye and #13 for #1. Portland could get Beasley or trade down and get Rose, etc. Miami would instantly get some talent around Wade. And the Spanish connection of Sergio and Rudy would play well in Miami.

Miami

Wade
Fernandez
Marion
Haslem
Joel

This lineup would definately play batter than last year's team.

Portland

Roy
Webster
Beasley
Aldridge
Oden

or

Rose
Roy
Outlaw/Webster/Jones
Aldridge
Oden

Portland consolidates and trades some solid, but less than all-star talent for a potential all-star PG or forward.
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Re: Riley open to trading #1 pick.

Let's hope that Miami gets the #2, 3 or 4 pick, maybe they will be even more willing to trade
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Re: Riley open to trading #1 pick.

someone should tell riley they have better odds of getting #4 than #1
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Re: Riley open to trading #1 pick.

It's not like Sergio and Rudy are Cuban ... that's like saying we would get excited about Joel Freeland because he's a native english speaker (whatever, that's purely beside the point).

As for what Riles would be willing to negotiate only he knows, but I suspect it would probably involve the rights to Rudy, Jack, Travis, our number one pick and probably taking a bad contract back.

We'll see what kind of draft day magic KP is able to pull off this year I guess.

If the past is any idication the Heat will probably end up with the 3rd or 4th pick anyway.
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Let's hope that Miami gets the #2, 3 or 4 pick, maybe they will be even more willing to trade

won't need a particularly large amount of hope since there's a 75% chance of that happening
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Old 03-12-2008, 05:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It's not like Sergio and Rudy are Cuban ... that's like saying we would get excited about Joel Freeland because he's a native english speaker (whatever, that's purely beside the point).
Let me 'splain (Ricky Ricardo reference [he was Cuban])

Miami has a very large Spanish speaking population. I do not believe that any Heat players speak Spanish as a first language. Sergio and Rudy speak Spanish as a first language. Ergo, they may be popular with a large population in Miami. [Weren't Cubans Spaniards who colonized the island of Cuba?]

Portland has a large English speaking population. Almost all the Blazers (except Sergio) speak English as a first language. Joel F speaks English much like everyone else. Accordingly, he is nothing special.

Explain to me again how these two situations are the same?
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Re: Riley open to trading #1 pick.

miami needs more than our garbage leftovers to convince them to let go of their top 3 pick.
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Do we have the goods to get it? What would they be?

I think we could package something up nice for ol' Pat! He needs a center. We could trade Joel\Jack\Frye and our pick for Mark Blount and their pick?

I would strongly consider that. Then we take Beasley.
You would only "strongly consider" trading three mediocre bench players to trade up to the top position? You can't trade trash (relatively) for the year's top prospect.

It would take at least Outlaw/Fernandez and more. It may very well require someone like Aldridge.
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Re: Riley open to trading #1 pick.

If Miami is at #1, it would take LMA+13 at least to get up.
At #2, it probably would still take LAM+13. But, they just might go for Outlaw/Rudy/#13/2010 1st. Seems mighty high.
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Old 03-12-2008, 06:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Riley open to trading #1 pick.

As already mentioned, that trade is way lopsided. One of the worst I've seen actually.
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Old 03-12-2008, 06:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Riley open to trading #1 pick.

I doubt Miami will end up wiht the #1 pick, but if they did, idk, i'm guessin' we'd trade to it, and then trade down to #2 from there and draft rose?

We would have to give up ALOT to get the #1. Probably our #1 this year, #1 next year, and then JAck, Fernandez and Outlaw or somethin' like that, idk.
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