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03-13-2008, 03:23 PM
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and very, very good when playing backup SG
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no, just no. He is and average defender, and a below average shooter. He can get to the line, but he also turns it over on the way too much.
He will probably be a good backup combo guard eventually.
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03-13-2008, 03:31 PM
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no, just no. He is and average defender, and a below average shooter. He can get to the line, but he also turns it over on the way too much.
He will probably be a good backup combo guard eventually.
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I said backup, not starter. Your post makes it seem that you have to be capable of starting to be a good backup. If he corrected what you listed he'd be considered a very, very good STARTING guard and it would be stupid to play him as a backup.
Backups are backups for a reason.
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03-13-2008, 03:33 PM
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He is not a good bakcup. He turns it over too much, can't shoot, and is an average defender.
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03-13-2008, 03:35 PM
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He is not a good bakcup. He turns it over too much, can't shoot, and is an average defender.
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Please list all the backup SG's that are better than him. It will have to be a fairly big list to prove your point.
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03-13-2008, 03:38 PM
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^why would i waste my time to make a list for you?
Its a known fact that unless he has the ball in his hands, he isn't effective, because he can't shoot. He isn't a great defender. He can't control games because he lacks PG skills, even though he is 6'4. So you are telling me that he is a very very good backup because he drives and gets to the line?
he is getting 9ppg, 3rpg, and 4 apg, while almost turning it over 3 times per game. If that makes him a very very good backup SG, then is Outlaw and all star?
I guess him being 1-13 last 2 games probably didn't help his stats.
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03-13-2008, 03:56 PM
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^why would i waste my time to make a list for you?
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I assumed you were interested in intelligent discourse. Silly me.
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Its a known fact that unless he has the ball in his hands, he isn't effective, because he can't shoot. He isn't a great defender. He can't control games because he lacks PG skills, even though he is 6'4. So you are telling me that he is a very very good backup because he drives and gets to the line?
he is getting 9ppg, 3rpg, and 4 apg, while almost turning it over 3 times per game. If that makes him a very very good backup SG, then is Outlaw and all star?
I guess him being 1-13 last 2 games probably didn't help his stats.
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You lost me at well known fact. I think you meant your opinion.
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03-13-2008, 03:57 PM
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You lost me at well known fact. I think you meant your opinion.
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sure thing boss.
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03-13-2008, 04:16 PM
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sure thing boss.
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Oh I see, you just don't know the definition of fact. Here you go:
"A fact is defined as something that is the case, something that actually exists, or something that can be verified according to an established standard of evaluation."
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03-13-2008, 04:18 PM
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Oh I see, you just don't know the definition of fact
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how you got that, from this:
is beyond me.
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03-13-2008, 04:21 PM
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how you got that, from this:
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Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.
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03-13-2008, 06:07 PM
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Jack is a very good backup shooting guard. Not sure why he gets so much hate. Well I guess if you think he's a PG he deserves it because he's atrocious as a PG, even a backup.
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It's weird because I could have sworn that often times when he and Roy are in the game at the same time Jack handles the ball and brings it up the floor like a PG. Also, he attempts to drive and kick, though he pretty well sucks at that. I say he splits time between sucking at both PG and SG.
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