[LameR]

Originally Posted by LittleAlex

And that sucks how, exactly. Najera and Noah are everyday, 20+ minutes a night players. To be honest, I would trade Frye for ether one of those guys. In fact, I would say that Portland really could use someone who plays like that every night without getting the ball. He wouldn't be a starter, more then likely, but for 15 to 20 minutes a night he could come in a be a seriously disruptive force on the floor. If there is a place in the league for a dude like Birdman, there is a place for Psycho T. If he was available at 13th you would have to consider taking him as long as no decent point guards were left.

Frankly, I wish there was more Psycho T in Outlaw, Webster and Frye.

While I agree with some of what you said, I don't like him to the degree that you do. He's one of the players I'm very interested in, but I don't know if I'd take him at 13. While it'd be nice to see Webster, Frye, and Outlaw be a bit more intense at times, they have improved at least some this season. I don't think it will be as big of an issue when the team has Oden in the middle either.

Also, I wouldn't trade Frye for Najera or Noah.

On a different topic, this is all I really have on my draft board right now.

Guys I'd take in the lottery:
1. Derrick Rose
2. Russel Westbrook
3. Jerryd Bayless
4. Eric Gordon
5. Michael Beasley
6. OJ Mayo
7. Kevin Love
8. Danillo Gallinari
9. Nicolas Batum
10. Anthony Randolph

Rose is amazing, Westbrook is agreat fit for us. I don't know a ton about the two Euros, and haven't been thoroughly impressed from what I've read. I also have doubts about how they'd fit here. I'm not a GM though.

Guys I'd take, or think hard about later (interest partially based on where they'd be available):
1. DJ Augustine
2. Mario Chalmers
3. Courtney Lee
4. Tyler Hansborough
5. Chris Douglas-Roberts
6. Donte Green
7. Kyle Weaver
8. Demarcus Nelson
9. Sean Singletary

[nikolokolus]

I said a few months back that I didn't want to jump on the Westbrook bandwagon unless I saw him carry his good play into the tournament -- I wanted to see if the cream would rise. RW did that in spades. He can run the break, he's a very good defender, can finish at the rim, and is a freak athletically. He didn't do a whole lot to slow Rose down head to head, but he didn't get abused either when they matched up head to head. I think he'd be a perfect compliment ... the trouble is you have to wonder if one of the 12 teams likely to pick ahead of us won't see that too.

My list would probably go something like this and doesn't account for our actual projected draft position:
1. Rose (pipe dream)
2. Westbrook
3. Beasley (incredibly talented, but probably not a great fit for a team still trying to rehab its image)
4. Mayo
5. Batum
6. Anthony Randolph
7. Kevin Love
8. Eric Gordon
9. Lester Hudson (though I don't think he'd be a worthy lotto pick)
10. Donte Green.

Hopefully KP will be able to turn our 1st rounder, a plethora of 2nd round picks, and 2nd and 3rd tier players into draft day gold.

[STOMP]

Originally Posted by nikolokolus

My list would probably go something like this and doesn't account for our actual projected draft position:
1. Rose (pipe dream)
2. Westbrook
3. Beasley (incredibly talented, but probably not a great fit for a team still trying to rehab its image)
4. Mayo
5. Batum
6. Anthony Randolph
7. Kevin Love
8. Eric Gordon
9. Lester Hudson (though I don't think he'd be a worthy lotto pick)
10. Donte Green.

what did Beasley ever do wrong? He sort of looks rough around the edges and he seems a bit cocky, but I'm not aware of actual problems. Then again, image can equal perception as we are well aware from the derided Jailblazer bleep. Sportswriters are a lazy bunch.

also I think it's sort of wierd all of the top 10 prospect lists by posters who don't have him anywhere. Dude is pretty good...

STOMP

[nikolokolus]

Originally Posted by STOMP

what did Beasley ever do wrong? He sort of looks rough around the edges and he seems a bit cocky, but I'm not aware of actual problems. Then again, image can equal perception as we are well aware from the derided Jailblazer bleep. Sportswriters are a lazy bunch.

also I think it's sort of wierd all of the top 10 prospect lists by posters who don't have him anywhere. Dude is pretty good...

STOMP

I read a couple of articles from papers back east (can't remember which) and they basically mentioned a few tagging incidents, some stupid pranks, and a general lack of maturity ... not saying its anything on the order of a Qyntel Woods or other past Jailblazer antics, but it did raise some concerns.

[MrJayremmie]

HIs attitude on the floor.

Here is what NBADraft said about him:

Maturity. Some feel that he has an attitude problem, and lacks the discipline to be coached

He occasionally coasts through entire games… There is a theory that he is so much better than his competition that he gets bored … Incredibly, he will literally walk through warm-ups and appear to play at less than half speed,

From watching him play, you would think that he has a bad attitude, though his coaches say he is a hard worker in practice

Can get frustrated when things aren't going well, needs maturity, mental toughness ... Play can become lazy and unfocused at times

I think stuff like that are what he is talking about. Maybe a little Zach Randolph in him.

Originally Posted by STOMP

also I think it's sort of wierd all of the top 10 prospect lists by posters who don't have him anywhere. Dude is pretty good...

true, I think the logic behind that is that if we were to trade up that high to get a player, it would be Rose and not Beasly. Also considering how he would fit on this team. With Oden and Rudy coming, we would need a PG much more than a SF/PF hybrid.

[chairman]

Besides Rose and Beasley........There are about 6 other guys on the draft boards that I would be excited to get and most of them are a couple years away from helping. Granted I don't know much about the others because they are either too young or play in Europe, but seriouly is anyone excited about guys like Gallinari, Batum, McGee, Jordan, or Randolph. I would take the Pac 10 boys of Mayo,Bayless and Westbrook because they are all great athletes and can play some D (Where the verdict is still out on Rudy and Koponen)Love, Lopez and Gordon look to be solid as well. But this draft looks like a crap shoot. We need to be in the top 8.

[Webster's Dictionary]

It only took me about 100 times to get it. I was bored and had some time to kill while capturing video.

[STOMP]

Originally Posted by MrJayremmie

HIs attitude on the floor.

Here is what NBADraft said about him...

those speculations were written midway through his senior year in HS. Maybe I missed something, but I've seen nothing that substantiates these concerns since he's hit college. Somewhat like OJ Mayo, I think he he may be having his book judged by it's cover because he doesn't look/act like Johnny All American.

STOMP

[Sonny-Canzano]

Watching Carl Landry, Paul Milsap, and Jason Maxiell in this draft, these are the type of players we need off the bench.

Mark my words, this years Milsap/Landry/Maxiell is Richard Hendrix. U

If we can't trade up, I would support trading down to get Hendrix. The guy is strong as an ox and on top of that he has a very high basketball IQ.

We have our star players in place, it's time to think about brining in the players who will do the dirty work off the bench.

[Kmurph]

Nice call on Hendrix, and POR needs a "banger" at PF coming off the bench...

[MAS RipCity]

I disagree that we need a banger at PF..we have freaking Joel the Thrilla coming off of the bench, not worried about foul trouble at all. What we need is what we have off of the bench, a outside threat at pf in either Frye or Travis to compliment Joel's inside toughness.

[Oldmangrouch]

Originally Posted by MAS RipCity

I disagree that we need a banger at PF..we have freaking Joel the Thrilla coming off of the bench, not worried about foul trouble at all. What we need is what we have off of the bench, a outside threat at pf in either Frye or Travis to compliment Joel's inside toughness.

Except for the small problem that Joel doesn't have the quickness to guard the average PF unless you gave him roller-skates and a tennis racket.

[Kmurph]

and yet we still had trouble rebounding the ball....

Yes, Oden will greatly help that...but a guy like a Hendrix, who could come off the bench score a little inside, rebound and bring some toughness would be very useful...

Both Frye and Outlaw have shown LITTLE in the toughness & rebounding department, but then again I don't expect both to be here next year...