View Poll Results: Jack & Outlaw for Calderon???

Yes 44 53.66%
No 18 21.95%
Maybe 16 19.51%
I would change up a couple things (Will specify) 4 4.88%
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Old 04-21-2008, 06:06 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:48 AM   #32 (permalink)
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NEWSFLASH PEOPLE!!!!
You need good bench players to win titles too ya know?!
This isn't G'Damn fantasy basketball where you try and put out your best 5 players and can pay them all 44 minutes a night and not have fatigue affect them like this is NBA 2K8.
Not to mention, Jose is not an upgrade. His D is weaker than Steve's and he is only a slightly better shooter. Not worth our great bench. Pus Travis is my favorite, I wouldn't deal him for the best player in the game..I want to win with guys I like...sue me!
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:59 AM   #33 (permalink)
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NEWSFLASH PEOPLE!!!!
You need good bench players to win titles too ya know?!
This isn't G'Damn fantasy basketball where you try and put out your best 5 players and can pay them all 44 minutes a night and not have fatigue affect them like this is NBA 2K8.
Not to mention, Jose is not an upgrade. His D is weaker than Steve's and he is only a slightly better shooter. Not worth our great bench. Pus Travis is my favorite, I wouldn't deal him for the best player in the game..I want to win with guys I like...sue me!
Bench players are easier to come by than starters. Jose is one of the best point guards in the league, you're kidding yourself if you think Blake or Jack are on his level.
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If Jose was so good, why has he lost his starting job?
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If Jose was so good, why has he lost his starting job?
He didn't "lose" it. He asked to be put on the bench to see if TJ could get some confidence as a starter.

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You wouldn't give up Webster or Outlaw alone for Calderon..? Outlaw is atleast understandable but Webster, seriously??
With some of us, the grass is hardly ever greener.
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He didn't "lose" it. He asked to be put on the bench to see if TJ could get some confidence as a starter.

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Re: Would you give up Jack & Outlaw for Calderon???

Well, looks like they both lost their confidence because that whole team has went to the crapper the 2nd half of the season. People ***** and moan about Jack's lack of D will have a field day with Jose. Not to mention he is already like 26-27..not someone really with much upside.
Mark my words. Jarrett Jack will end up with the better career than Jose Calderon.
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Well, looks like they both lost their confidence because that whole team has went to the crapper the 2nd half of the season. People ***** and moan about Jack's lack of D will have a field day with Jose. Not to mention he is already like 26-27..not someone really with much upside.
Mark my words. Jarrett Jack will end up with the better career than Jose Calderon.
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and it would be cool to have 3 spaniards on the team
Personally that would worry me a little bit. It's kind of a "putting all your eggs in one basket" scenario. I know this is far fetched, but what if something happened (politically) or we just plain pissed one of them off and they all decided they wanted out? Two of them is enough.
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Re: Would you give up Jack & Outlaw for Calderon???

Realty check.

Calderon: 30.3 MPG, 11.2 PPG, 6.1 APG/1.54 TOs, FG% 519, 3P% 429, FT% 908

Blake: 29.9 MPG, 8.5 PPG, 5.1 APG/1.4 TOs, FG% 404, 3P% 381, FT% 771

Jack: 27.2 MPG, 9.9 PPG, 3.8 APG/2.17 Tos(!), FG% 443, 3p% 332, FT% 853

Calderon is no star, but he is an upgrade over what we have.

Folks need to quit overvaluing our bench players! Decent bench players aren't that hard to find. Remember, the Blazers pulled Joel and Ime off the scrape heap, and in taking Jones we were supposedly doing the Suns a favor!
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Realty check.

Calderon: 30.3 MPG, 11.2 PPG, 6.1 APG/1.54 TOs, FG% 519, 3P% 429, FT% 908

Blake: 29.9 MPG, 8.5 PPG, 5.1 APG/1.4 TOs, FG% 404, 3P% 381, FT% 771

Jack: 27.2 MPG, 9.9 PPG, 3.8 APG/2.17 Tos(!), FG% 443, 3p% 332, FT% 853

Calderon is no star, but he is an upgrade over what we have.
I haven't checked all the stats you listed here, but I know that Blake shot 41% from 3s...

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So Ford and Calderon went 4 for 20 today and held Jameer Nelson and Keyon Dooling to 11-21. Maybe we should throw in next years #1 too.
Good call. How did Jack and Outlaw play? I forgot, so shoot me their statline.

Oh yea........

Again, great call.


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