Fork

How do you know? Do you know what the theoretical deal would be?

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GOD

Well IF (big if) they were going to trade for non-big 3 or rudy, I think the sign & trade would look something like this

Portland trades
Travis Outlaw
Joel Przybilla
Steve Blake (Perhaps Jack, but I think they would demand blake)
#13 Pick

Toronto trades
Resigned Calderon ~ 8-10mil per
Scrub (Garbajosa or Brezec.

Why for Portland
They get their starting PG without destroying their starting 5. Losing their three players would all be hard on the team, but that would be the cost of the upgrade. With Oden coming in, Joel is somewhat expendable and Blake would be a BU anyway with Calderon as the starter. Outlaw's offense would not be as needed with the addition of Oden and Rudy.

Why for Toronto
They upgrade two of their starting positions with Outlaw over Moon and Przybilla over Rasho. Also, Blake would be a good insurance policy if Ford got injured. Rasho is too slow and old now, but Bosh really needs a tough guy to like Joel to take care of the paint, and also Rasho has not been a good rebounder or blocker, but Joel would be much better and would play well in their system. Outlaw would be a lot like Moon who fits well in their system, but he is better at most things but is a much better shooter which will be needed to spread the floor for Bosh. Also, they get the 13th pick witch should be nice.

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chairman

That reminds me wayyyyyy too much of the Kiki V. trade with Denver.

Fork

This is nothing like that trade aside from consolidating a pile of okay talent for the most talented player in the trade.

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GOD

I am not necessarily supporting this trade idea, but I was taking an attempt to answer the question of what it would take to get Calderon without giving up Roy, Oden, Aldridge or Rudy. I would also not be against the trade. I really think it is fair to both sides. I think there would be happy and pissed Toronto and Portland fans.

I think if Toronto were to do this trade it would hinge on their belief that Ford can stay healthy. If they don't believe that, then there would not be any trade possible.

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crandc

This is not "news". This is a message board rumor.

Please. There is a difference.

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STOMP

Just my best guess at reading the tea leaves, but TJ is the proud owner of a much bigger contract which makes him much more difficult to move. I also think they might feel TJ is a better fit/compliment to Parker and Kapono (who I'm guessing they'd rather start over Moon) because of his blazing speed and drive and kick game. I'd guess they'd want Travis or Joel or Frye + #13 for JC.

On Shane, here's guessing that the Rocket's management might have reevaluated how well he fits with the club... dude's had a great year. I doubt he's on the block awaiting a best offer.

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STOMP

perhaps you don't watch the evening news much (I don't) and aren't aware of whats passing for news these days... this might pass their sniff test

Anyhoo... I do agree with your point of how flimsy this "story" is. Whats JQ's batting average on this sort of thing? I'd put it at pretty close to zero. The latest Blazer management group may play nicer on the surface with the Oregonian reporters, but I doubt they're letting them in on any real details. Quick is likely just reporting rumors that agents are feeding him, and sports agents have various motivations other then relaying what will likely happen. The same thing could be said about sports beat "reporters"

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angrypuppy

TJ Ford is just one bad fall from decapitation.

My bet is that Toronto keeps Calderon.

BlazerFan22

I would trade either Outlaw or Webster for Battier. Shane is an underated player. He does all the little things and more that don't show up on stat sheets and more kind of like Scottie Pippen did. Shane can do it all and he's good at it all. Players like Battier and Pippen don't come around that offten vary underated players.

deanwoof

i just rewatched this on tv.

at the very end of this tidbit quick basically says

"we finished our dinner. but they were still talking. so me and my colleague decided to order more wine, food and dessert. by the time we left, we were pretty loopy jotting down everything on our pads." and looking through the blinds of the restaurant.

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Fork

Please stop being the board nanny, determining for all of us what is news and what isn't news.

It's news of sorts, since it's being reported by the closest thing we have to a beat reporter for the Blazers. He's obviously got relevant connections and I'm sure he knows that Portland is going to make a major play for Calderon in the offseason. No matter what a bunch of fans think of the likelyhood of the trade actually happening.

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LittleAlex

This team would win 50 games next year.

B-Roy