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05-03-2008, 04:07 PM
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Re: Roy as PG
Roy at PG makes about as much sense as moving Oden to PF and looking for a better center.
Let's address our weaknesses, not create more of them.
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05-03-2008, 04:32 PM
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Re: Roy as PG
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Roy at PG makes about as much sense as moving Oden to PF and looking for a better center.
Let's address our weaknesses, not create more of them.
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Oooo...Good one! 
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05-03-2008, 04:54 PM
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Re: Roy as PG
Moving Roy to the point makes sense. He's basically been our PG for most of the season, the only thing Blake really did was bring the ball up the floor. Roy ran the offense this season.
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05-03-2008, 05:32 PM
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Re: Roy as PG
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Originally Posted by Sonny-Canzano
Moving Roy to the point makes sense. He's basically been our PG for most of the season, the only thing Blake really did was bring the ball up the floor. Roy ran the offense this season.
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Where did you get this assumption? He only carried the offense during clutch situations.
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05-03-2008, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MARIS61
Roy sacrifices half his value when he plays PG, and I'd rank him behind Blake, Sergio and Petteri at that position.
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Easily the hardest I've laughed all day. Whether you were joking or serious, thank you!
btw, I'm sure someone will be bumping this thread down the line...
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05-03-2008, 06:39 PM
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Re: Roy as PG
It's not an assumption. I'm not the only person to come to this conclusion either. Coach Byron Scott said the exact same thing about Roy saying "He starts at the two but he's really their PG."
Billups is showing the benefits of having a big PG - he's absolutely abusing the smaller Jameer Nelson. At the least I would put Roy's baseline to baseline and lateral quickness on par with Chauncy Billups.
Roy is our PG of the present and future. Putting up 27/7/7 playing the point is no joke. He needs the ball in his hands, he is more effective when we give Roy the ball. It only makes sense. He has the size of a SG but he's a PG through and through.
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05-03-2008, 06:43 PM
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Re: Roy as PG
Yes Roy's best position now is SG, but that doesn't mean that he can't be as good of a PG as he is a SG even next season. Roy's only coming into his 3rd season. If he works on his ball handling a little bit more this offseason, then maybe it makes sense... I mean if we had both Clyde and MJ, you would try to find a way to play them together at the same time. Whether you go with a small lineup or try to get one of them to take over some PG duties. You wouldn't just relegate one of them to the bench or automatically trade one because they both play the same position. I think we see how Rudy does this year (assuming he comes over). If he is as advertised then there is an option to explore of using Roy at PG, which reduces the need to mortgage the future to acquire a top flight PG in the next year or so.
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05-03-2008, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by B-Roy
Where did you get this assumption (Roy being moved to PG)? He only carried the offense during clutch situations.
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from the article this thread is based on??? Or maybe it was one of the dozens of articles that preceeded it? Heres a chronological smattering from 15 minutes of bumping around.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...40_umen27.html
The Huskies have begun using Roy so much at the point-guard spot in practices and scrimmages that Roy said yesterday, "Point guard is turning into my primary position."
http://dwb.thenewstribune.com/sports...-5385287c.html
McMillan said Roy’s natural position is probably shooting guard. But the former Seattle SuperSonics player and coach is intrigued by Roy’s potential at the point, and he began working him there on the second day of training camp.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindbla...udy_ferna.html
"I would say I could be just a point guard if we bring somebody in, or if Martell (Webster) continues to develop to be a scoring two guard,'' Roy said.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...pe=team_report
Portland’s 13-game winning streak in December coincided with G Brandon Roy being moved to a de facto point guard role. With the ball in his hands, Roy became Portland’s leader in scoring and assists with 19.3 points and 5.9 assists per game
sometimes I'd swear I'm following a different team.
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05-03-2008, 07:32 PM
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Re: Roy as PG
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Originally Posted by STOMP
from the article this thread is based on??? Or maybe it was one of the dozens of articles that preceeded it? Heres a chronological smattering from 15 minutes of bumping around.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...40_umen27.html
The Huskies have begun using Roy so much at the point-guard spot in practices and scrimmages that Roy said yesterday, "Point guard is turning into my primary position."
http://dwb.thenewstribune.com/sports...-5385287c.html
McMillan said Roy’s natural position is probably shooting guard. But the former Seattle SuperSonics player and coach is intrigued by Roy’s potential at the point, and he began working him there on the second day of training camp.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindbla...udy_ferna.html
"I would say I could be just a point guard if we bring somebody in, or if Martell (Webster) continues to develop to be a scoring two guard,'' Roy said.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...pe=team_report
Portland’s 13-game winning streak in December coincided with G Brandon Roy being moved to a de facto point guard role. With the ball in his hands, Roy became Portland’s leader in scoring and assists with 19.3 points and 5.9 assists per game
sometimes I'd swear I'm following a different team.
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Who cares what the articles say, watching the games show that he's been playing the shooting guard for the vast majority of the season. And there's a reason he starts at SG...
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05-03-2008, 07:44 PM
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Who cares what the articles say, watching the games show that he's been playing the shooting guard for the vast majority of the season. And there's a reason he starts at SG...
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Yeah, good point. When his GM, coach, the NBA coach of the year, and Brandon himself says he plays PG... you know he's not because... well who cares why, you said it, thats all that matters.
Playing the point is defined by most NBA people as the guy who initiates the offense... the main playmaker. If the PG is (in your eyes) the 2nd shortest player in the lineup, then he'll be the SG next year as well as he's taller then both Blake and Rudy.
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05-03-2008, 07:53 PM
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Re: Roy as PG
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Yeah, good point. When his GM, coach, the NBA coach of the year, and Brandon himself says he plays PG... you know he's not because... well who cares why, you said it, thats all that matters.
Playing the point is defined by most NBA people as the guy who initiates the offense... the main playmaker. If the PG is (in your eyes) the 2nd shortest player in the lineup, then he'll be the SG next year as well as he's taller then both Blake and Rudy.
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I can say I'm playing the point, but that doesn't mean I'm actually playing the position. I think McMillan, Roy, and KP refer to the fact that he plays the PG position at times. Btw, your little articles never say Roy is a PG. Roy says he COULD be a PG and McMillan acknowledges that fact that his natrual position is SG, but says Roy has the potential to be a point.
Maybe you havn't been watching the games, but it's pretty obvious that Blake runs the offense when both he and Roy are playing at the same time. The same thing goes for Jack. Roy plays the PG sparingly, and during crunch time.
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05-03-2008, 08:04 PM
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Re: Roy as PG
He's a second year player. He excelled at running the offense when he was given the opportunity this year. Why, exactly, can't he play PG next year?
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05-03-2008, 08:25 PM
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I can say I'm playing the point, but that doesn't mean I'm actually playing the position. I think McMillan, Roy, and KP refer to the fact that he plays the PG position at times. Btw, your little articles never say Roy is a PG. Roy says he COULD be a PG and McMillan acknowledges that fact that his natrual position is SG, but says Roy has the potential to be a point.
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I take offense to that, my articles are HUGE!!! You really should reread this as your attempts to deny the obvious are silly.
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Maybe you havn't been watching the games, but it's pretty obvious that Blake runs the offense when both he and Roy are playing at the same time. The same thing goes for Jack. Roy plays the PG sparingly, and during crunch time.
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Yeah, I have no idea what I'm watching for the 30+ years I've been a Blazer diehard... neither does Nate or KP apparently and Brandon is lying to himself. Everyone is stupid except for you... got it!
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