but what separates them is that Bynum is more skilled on offense. Prior to injury, he was showing back to the basket moves, as well as sound decision-making, court vision and passing.
Hmmm. I don't know about this. Greg has been pretty impressive with his post skills, footwork, and array of moves. He also has an amazing left hand that he developed for an entire year in college. He has a great shooting touch, as shown by his great free throw shooting.
Just like I was happy when I heard Magic Johnson had the HIV I will be happy at every negative thing that happens to the Lakers. The more the better. If there was a terrorist attack on the Staples center during a Lakers game I would be overjoyed. Especially in this series. It would be great to see the Jazz go down with them.
There is no Lakers / Blazers rivalry.
What there is, is a long history of them kicking our ***.
A rivalry needs to be two sided.
What we have is us hating them. That doesn't count as a rivalry. We're not even in the same division any more. That's how little the NBA thinks of the rivalry. If there was a real rivalry we would have stayed in the same division.
amazes me how some blazer fans have such low of an expectation for oden. this is a guy that many agreed was the best big man prospect to come into the nba in years.
bynum played well for a month and a half, and he wasn't even dominating. he played well for a month and a half. he's not much more proven than oden.
i don't think it will be quite the same as when shaq dominated sabonis, but oden will make bynum's life hell any time they meet. i'd bet on it.
I don't disagree that Oden will be great and will likely dominate Bynum. Bynum was pretty darn raw when he came into the league and I've seen tremendous improvement in him and I think he will be pretty darn good. As good as Oden? I seriously doubt it but until Oden has done more than be hyped, Bynum, to me, is more of a proven commodity.
amazes me how some blazer fans have such low of an expectation for oden. this is a guy that many agreed was the best big man prospect to come into the nba in years.
bynum played well for a month and a half, and he wasn't even dominating. he played well for a month and a half. he's not much more proven than oden.
i don't think it will be quite the same as when shaq dominated sabonis, but oden will make bynum's life hell any time they meet. i'd bet on it.
So is this your first post on this POR forum or amazing sarcasm?
even in his older years, sabonis was also more skilled than shaq on offense, but that didn't stopped shaq from dominating sabonis. athletically, bynum is nowhere near oden, imo. like shaq, i think oden will use his strength and athleticism to overwhelm his defenders rather than using refined offensive moves.
You never saw Shaq at 19 or 20 if you're seriously comparing Oden to him as an athlete or in terms of strength, hands, or even skillset (foot work, touch). Shaq at 20 was physically unequaled in all of NBA history (including Oden), save for maybe The Stilt himself.
Maybe, but it doesnt make it any less true for you guys...If you have followed what people here usually think then you know that comment is the furthest thing from the truth.
At least Laker fans that pump up Bynum (like myself) at least have actual NBA play by Bynum to somewhat justify it.
You never saw Shaq at 19 or 20 if you're seriously comparing Oden to him as an athlete or in terms of strength, hands, or even skillset (foot work, touch). Shaq at 20 was physically unequaled in all of NBA history (including Oden), save for maybe The Stilt himself.
Shaq wasn't exactly that great at footwork or touch when he first came into the league. He used brute strength more than anything else. It wasn't until after he got abused by Hakeem that he altered his game to include more than just barreling into players.
Their freshman #'s are actually similar, cept that Oden scored more and rebounded (a lot) less.
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You never saw Shaq at 19 or 20 if you're seriously comparing Oden to him as an athlete or in terms of strength, hands, or even skillset (foot work, touch). Shaq at 20 was physically unequaled in all of NBA history (including Oden), save for maybe The Stilt himself.
you're right, i did not see shaq played when he was a freshman and sophomre at lsu. i did saw him played a few times as a junior.
looking at their measurement numbers, shaq is 2 inches taller than oden. shaq weighed in at 303 lbs. in his predraft measurement, after he came out of lsu as a junior. as a freshman, oden played at 275 lbs. in his final month at osu. so the numbers favor shaq in term of size. i would also give the edge to shaq in term of strength, but not by much. watching the video clips when shaq played at lsu, especially during his freshman season, their size looks very similar to me. as far as athleticism, i'd say they're very comparable.
looking at both of their stats as a freshman, oden's stats compare favorably to shaq's as well. this is after oden played his entire freshman season with his right hand in a cast.
i'm not saying i'm expecting oden to be as good as shaq. although, i'm betting that oden will be closer to shaq than bynum to oden.
So is this your first post on this POR forum or amazing sarcasm?
i have no idea why you find it to be so amusing. i was responding after i read a couple of portland posters thought that rudy fernandez (24th pick last season) will have more of an impact than oden will in their rookie season. another poster thought that bynum would have an edge over oden.
i disagreed on both accounts. i think that is selling oden way short.
Shaq wasn't exactly that great at footwork or touch when he first came into the league. He used brute strength more than anything else.
exactly! shaq's game was all bruth strength earlier on. he didn't even developed an effective hook shot until his 3rd season, iirc. oden already can use the hook with both hands. as far as having better touch around the basket, that easily goes to oden, imo.
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