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Old 05-08-2008, 08:33 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Bynum won't get microfracture surgery, just exploratory, if he opts for surgery at all. You don't get MF surgery unless you've lost some sort of cartilage in your knee, which Bynum hasn't. At least according to all the reports I've heard.
One of the main reasons to do exploratory surgery is to look for small chips of dislodged cartilage because that does not show up on MRI's or X-Rays. If there does happen to be some degrading of the cartilage, then MF surgery would be next. Most ailments in the knee can be diagnosed without exploratory except for certain cartilage or ligament issues. This is why exploratory surgery so often leads to major surgery, the lesser ailments should be noticeable via MRI. I really hope Bynum does not need MF surgery, I hate when any young promising player is sidelined for health reasons.
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:55 AM   #32 (permalink)
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^^^ Yeah I am worried for Bynum.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:35 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Need I say more?


Is it me, or is Oden actually SMILING as he is blocking that shot???
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:48 AM   #34 (permalink)
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He's in the middle of saying 'WEAK!"
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:39 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: Simply Licking My Chops...

Oden's vert looks pretty weak.


What's up with Bynum's sketchy pre-draft vert numbers? Who supplied those #'s and why didn't he go to pre-draft camp to get official measurements?
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Oden's vert looks pretty weak.


What's up with Bynum's sketchy pre-draft vert numbers? Who supplied those #'s and why didn't he go to pre-draft camp to get official measurements?
Huh? Are you saying the kid can't jump?
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I hope Bynum is fine by next season. I really want to see him match up with GO.
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Old 05-08-2008, 06:20 PM   #38 (permalink)
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One of the main reasons to do exploratory surgery is to look for small chips of dislodged cartilage because that does not show up on MRI's or X-Rays. If there does happen to be some degrading of the cartilage, then MF surgery would be next. Most ailments in the knee can be diagnosed without exploratory except for certain cartilage or ligament issues. This is why exploratory surgery so often leads to major surgery, the lesser ailments should be noticeable via MRI. I really hope Bynum does not need MF surgery, I hate when any young promising player is sidelined for health reasons.
Highly unlikely. I've talked to several doctors about MF surgery (since I was close to getting it myself) and they all agree it's a last resort sort of surgery because the only cartilage that gets damaged that is worth drilling microholes into your knee (to induce bleeding and increase your cartilage surface area) is damage to the primary weight-bearing cartilage, not lateral cartilage or less important types of cartilage in your knee. Highly unlikely that "chipped" cartilage would lead to MF surgery, and there is no evidence that MF surgery has any preventative qualities. So possible, but unlikely. For example, Tmac had his knee scoped recently and all they did was remove loose particles.

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Even though you are a ****ing Laker fan, you are 100% correct. Microfracture surgery is to help with cartilage. Chances are that he won't need that surgery.

On another note though, both Oden and Darius Miles went in to have exploritory surgery and both ended up needing MF surgery. So I guess you just never know. I wish the kid luck though.
That just tells you what a bum Miles was. Oden I'm less sure about, I'll reserve judgment until he plays.
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Bynum won't get microfracture surgery, just exploratory, if he opts for surgery at all. You don't get MF surgery unless you've lost some sort of cartilage in your knee, which Bynum hasn't. At least according to all the reports I've heard.
Thats what we thought about Greg too.
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Highly unlikely. I've talked to several doctors about MF surgery (since I was close to getting it myself) and they all agree it's a last resort sort of surgery because the only cartilage that gets damaged that is worth drilling microholes into your knee (to induce bleeding and increase your cartilage surface area) is damage to the primary weight-bearing cartilage, not lateral cartilage or less important types of cartilage in your knee.
Oden's MF surgery was reportedly to the non-weight bearing portion of his left knee. I think Arenas had MF on non-weight bearing portion too.
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Old 05-10-2008, 11:53 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Highly unlikely. I've talked to several doctors about MF surgery (since I was close to getting it myself) and they all agree it's a last resort sort of surgery because the only cartilage that gets damaged that is worth drilling microholes into your knee (to induce bleeding and increase your cartilage surface area) is damage to the primary weight-bearing cartilage, not lateral cartilage or less important types of cartilage in your knee. Highly unlikely that "chipped" cartilage would lead to MF surgery, and there is no evidence that MF surgery has any preventative qualities. So possible, but unlikely. For example, Tmac had his knee scoped recently and all they did was remove loose particles. .
As others said, Oden had the procedure on non-weight bearing portion of his knee. Also, what a doc tells you might be very different since you are not a pro athlete. You have to consider the difference in the amount of strain and constant pounding that goes on in the knees of a pro, and that having full use of their knees is their livelihood. I doc might think it's not worth the pain and rehab to do a procedure on you that really is not going to affect you greatly, but on a pro, that procedure might mean the ability to continue in his profession. I really don't know, just a thought. Hope you are right that Bynum will be fine, but on the Blazer board we have come to expect MF surgery since we have seen it so much lately. The good news is that they seemed to have figured out how to do it now, and most people seem to heal just fine. Amare, Zach, and most others who take their rehab seriously tend to fully recover now. It just means missing some time.
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