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I would not expect any moves to bring in an upgrade until after Rudy signs. I could see a small trade, something like #13, a 2nd and Jack to move up to the 11th spot, or perhaps as far as a #13, jack and Webster to move up even further, but I doubt it will be to bring in a player till after Rudy signs. But once Rudy is signs, I could definitely see a larger trade to bring in a semi-star at PG or SF.

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Stay Blazed

stop talking about Jack. There is a 100% chance he is traded in the offseason. That goes for the majority of these as well:

Pick 13
Outlaw
Webster
Frye

chairman

The majority of those 4 players is 3. So there is 100% chance that 4 of those 5 players will be gone this summer?

I think those odds are a little high. I just don't see it. But you never know.....

Mr. Chuck Taylor

Can you let me know which one on your list isn't in the majority, so I can still talk about him?

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It's_GO_Time

You think?


I would take that bet . . . 100-1 odds that 4 0f the 5 players are gone. I've got thousands of credits in my "banking" to play with. What do you say stayed blazed?

Stay Blazed

I didn't write that very well. I meant including Jack so your right about the odds on that, although looking at that list I wouldn't be at all surprised if only Webster or Outlaw remained on this team next season.

Stay Blazed

My 200 credits for you 20,000? I'm down but is it if they're on the team on the first day or last day of the season?

darkhelmit54

I still think we should package some young players for vets who either are expiring and will play hard for a new contract (somewhere else if we choose) or are about to ride off into the sunset and won't mind our young guys taking a larger role. I really would like a guy like this at PG, and I think Jones has filled his role well at that in SF, it would be great if he came back too. I'm just getting to the point of realizing you can't have all young players if you want to develop them well and have good chemistry, vets can also push the competitiveness as it's not a throw away year for them. Andre Miller is the guy I would like most personally.

If we could move up in the draft with Jack to get Kevin Love, and then package him and Raef for Andre Miller I'd love it.

which would leave us at:

Miller/Blake/Rodriguez
Roy/Fernandez
Webster/Outlaw/Jones
Aldridge/Frye/Mcroberts
Oden/Pryzbilla

we could fill out our roster (two spots) with a combo of second round picks, Koponen, or Freeland.

I personally would like it a lot if after that we were able to make a trade with some sort of combo with Blake and Outlaw (before the season or perhaps mid-season) as it could be an attractive package, especially with another draft pick, as there just won't be enough minutes going around to develop everyone, we should be trying to get Roy minutes at PG in order to give Fernandez more time too, and Outlaw probably has the highest value of him, Webster, and Frye, but with Frye and Webster being better complimentary players.

I'm not sure what Blake/Outlaw/pick could net us...but perhaps a disgruntled star at the trade deadline, maybe a player ending their rookie contract and having a hard time negotiating a new deal, I don't really know for sure. But obvious targets could be Deng, Iguodala, Granger, Devin Harris and others...perhaps even down to Mike Miller (not my choice).

MrJayremmie

I hope we don't trade Outlaw, Webster or Frye. Jones and Jack i can part with. LaFrentz also. but i love our rotation if you add Rudy and Greg.

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Utherhimo

does anyone have the link to the podcast like they did last week?

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hasoos

Any time you can trade a couple or several mediocre/replaceable players for a upper tier player, you should pull the trigger. Just make sure their names aren't Fat Lever, Calvin Natt, and Wayne Cooper. Because it will come back to haunt you forever.

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gogreen

With Oden, LA, Pryz all having injury concerns i think Frye is our most important bench player. Frye showed in the last bit of the season and of course his rookie year that he is a keeper. If Brook Lopez projects as a top 5 pick, no thanks. I would not trade Frye for Lopez straight up this year.

IF Nate can get Martel to work on his defense and Martel becomes a good defender, there is no way i would trade Martel. He has a pure stroke that you can't teach and for God's sake, he is 21 years old. Martel has star potential and we have seen nowhere near his ceiling. Remember Nash passed on CP3 for Webbs, just sayin.

As much as i love Outlaw's potential i think what we see is what we are going to get in the future. He is not a Jermaine O situation. Remember, JO was getting no playing time so we never knew what he was going to end up at. Travis's biggest asset is his ability to cause match up problems plating the 3 and the 4. Also like a Jerome Kersey he relies on his athletic ability. In 4 to 5 yeras from now Travis might be already on the downside. As opposed to Martel, he has a skill that can keep him in the league for many more years. Walter Davis is someone who comes to mind right off the top of my head. Steve Smith, who else ??

Now, just my crazy opinion but Danny Granger is loved by KP and probably the rest of the league. I think Martel can be in a few years something close to Granger, who knows. I think Granger is a stud, but why trade away multiple peices when we may have someone on our roster now. Patience, patience..........

KP gave us all the Betty Crocker i wanna bake a cake speach and what he wants to do. I hope he sticks with his plan and waits a year so when we have our cap flexability he can go out and get that icing he is talking about. I think he has to see how Rudy, Roy and Martel play together as well as Oden and LA.

If he gets impatient and deals young talent for a experinced PG this summer i will be pissed.

Outlaw, Jack, Raef, # 13, are the only assets i wouldn't be to pissed if he gave away this summer for a Calderon, Conley jr, Andre Miller, Russel Westbrook. As much as everyone talks about the need for a PG, realisticaly BRoy is gonna have the ball in his hands in the 4th Q. Also, Rudy has great handles and his assist totals in ACB tells me he is unselfish and like Barret said last night on courtside, Rudy could also play some PG. One more year of Blake at the point is not going to kill us. You never know but i doubt we challange for Hardware next year anyway.

What do you think Denver feels about not having Blake on that dysfunctional team this year in the playoffs ??? Karl was not happy at the start of the year when he lost Blake and i think after watching the Laker series we all know why now. Blake is not chopped liver and if we get a franchise type PG i hope we keep Blake. The guy gets no credit and that is a shame. He does everything coach asks of him and wants to be in Portland. Wow a FA that wants to be in Portland?? I thought nobody wants to come here through free agency.

PATIENCE

GOD

I agree that Frye makes a good backup, and that it would be nice to keep him. But, he is not an integral cog to the Blazer machine and if the p[layers you listed do stay fairly healthy all year, will not see much playing time. If this happens, his value will decrease. I do not want to trade Frye for junk, but he must be on the table if an upgrade can be made to a player that will see more court time. For the same reason, I would even have Joel as a possible trade, not that I want to see him traded, but if that's what it takes to get an upgrade at starting PG than so be it.

All that shows is that Nash is a fool. Once the player has been drafted, you must make decisions based on their ability and not on where they were drafted. In business there is the term "sunk cost" which means that once you spent the money, that cost can't play a role in decision making, only future costs. For example, lets say you have a factory and to make the widget you buy 20mil in machines. Then there is a crash in the widget market and nobody wants them anymore. It does not make sense to keep making widgets just cause you spent the 20mil, you need to use the rest of your resourses wisely and have your workers, capitol and everything else work on making something that is wanted and not the widget. Sorry, I think I was rambling. Nash is an idiot.
And, you and I disagree that Webster has star potential. That is probably the crux of our disagreement on this point. I can't ever see him being better than a pretty good starter, and that will take a lot of improvement as I see him now as not even deserving a starting position.

But wait, Websters talent of shooting the ball is actually worse than Outlaws. They are both good shooters and Outlaw is better. Both need a lot of work on the defensive end, I would say equal, but my guess is that you disagree with me here. It is hard to prove with stats, but my guess is you think Matell is a better defender.

I do not think that Martell has it in him to be as good as Granger. Both will keep improving, but Granger is already so much better that I don't see Webster or Outlaw ever getting even with him. It's possible, I just don't see it.

The problem is that we have so many decent players and they simply can't all get playing time. With the addition of Oden and Rudy, not to mention #13, a lot of our players will see greatly reduced roles. If this happens, two negatives can happen. 1) chemistry is harmed because people want to play, and in some cases need to play to prove themselves and make their future contracts. Too many cooks in the kitchen. 2) The players that lose playing time will also see a decrease in their value, so at the end of the year, we will not be able to get nearly as much for the same players.

For me, it depends on the quality of the player. If he trades for an experienced player with years left on them and that player is high quality (Calderon, Harris) than I will be happy. If he trades them for an over the hill player (Kidd, Miller) I will be pissed.
Well, I think you and i agree on most of this final part, don't trade just to trade, don't trade for an over the hill player and such. And I also agree that although I would prefer to make a trade for an upgrade at PG (young as well) It would not be the end of the world if we went another year with Blake. The only real part I differ on is the players I would be willing to trade. I would rather keep Outlaw over Webster, but I would have both on the block, and I would certainly have Jones, Frye, Joel added to Jack, Raef et al. Basically, anyone but the big three is on the block if the return is great enough. But don't trade them for crack.

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