B-Roy

Too unbalanced in Portlands favor.

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PDXshelbyGT

I just love blockbuster trades!

LOL

GOD

#2 would really suck for the bucks

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Jayps15

I don't think that's a good trade for Milwaukee or Toronto.

From Milwaukee's perspective Bogut is the best piece they have right now, and to trade him away for Bargs+Jack+Raef would be a horrendous move. They just signed Mo Williams to a long term deal, and Ramon Sessions at the end of this season was simply amazing when Williams went down with an injury, so Jack is a 3rd string PG on that roster. And to swap Villanueva for another soft, 3pt shooting PF makes no sense, and Raef's expiring doesn't help them much at all unless they can unload one of their more ridiculous contracts (Gadzuric/Simmons/Redd).

Then Toronto gives up a PG who perfectly fits their style, and a former #1 overall pick for a back up/ok starting Center, a backup tweener forward, and a pick thats not even in the top 10 of the draft? Yes they are looking for a tough defensive center and a second scoring option to help lighten the load on Bosh, but there are options in free agency for the big man, and Outlaw isn't a 2nd scoring option on a team that wants to go anywhere in the playoffs.

The Blazers come out way to far ahead for this to be even remotely realistic.

GOD

Honestly, i think that if Calderon is gettable, than a trade directly with the Blazers should be doable since we have several pieces they should be interested in. For example

Calderon (resigned to ~10 mil), Nesterovic( expiring) and Graham (expiring)
for
Outlaw, Przybilla and Raef (expiring) and #13pick

they get an upgrade to their starting lineup at C with a tough defensive center and Outlaw would be a big upgrade starter at SF. Plus they save a little money and get the #13.

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MrJayremmie

I wouldn't want to give up Pryzbilla. Oden hasn't proved he can go through a season un-injured yet. Pryz will be here to back him up and anchor the 2nd unit and be there if Greg gets in foul trouble.

I also wouldn't trade both Outlaw and Webster.

I'd rather throw in Frye than Joel. Also throwing in Webster would suck because he is our starting 3. Right now, Outlaw won't really be effective as a starter... maybe it opens up for Rudy, along with Roy and calderon? IDK.

I would love to keep our 9 man rotation in tact...

? | Blake
Roy | Rudy
Webster | Outlaw
Aldridge | Frye
Oden | Pryzbilla

leaves Jones, LaFrentz, Sergio, Jack, 1st round pick, future pick, cash... then could probably do either Frye or Outlaw? If we trade Outlaw we can keep Jones but would really miss his spark off the bench, imo. He really kept us in games by himself, i'd rather keep him. Frye came on strong at the end of the year, but honestly wasn't that good all year. He is nice, but Outlaw could play backup PF and SF, and narrow our rotation down to 9, which would be sick... Oden, Aldridge and Pryzbilla as the post rotation is hawt. Throw in Outlaw as backup PF sometimes and i'd rather have that...

Jones, Jack, Frye, Sergio, LaFrentz, cash, #13, future first would be my trade honestly. IDK how far that would get us, but if we take on some of their contracts as well, maybe its not bad? Obviously not trade all of them, but a package of sorts taking into account salary and what Toronto wants...

edit - i do understand that Outlaw would probably have to be in the deal though, as i'm sure he is a piece they would like. If I were KP, i'd do everything to keep him on our team though.

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Sonny-Canzano

What's with all the berries?

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When your winning, fight like your losing.

pac4eva5

this might be the worst trade involving my nuggets ive ever seen. congrats!

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GOD

Today was a good day, I didn't even have to use my AK.


Just enjoying the season.

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GOD

I don't want to get rid of Joel, but it is my belief that to get Calderon, that would be needed. Frye would not work for thr Raps because of how their team is constructed. Joel and Outlaw would be the two main pieces in my trade because I think those are the players that the Raps would desire to move Calderon. You have to give to get. Sure, if Oden goes down it would suck big time ,but I don't think you can build a franchise expecting your 20 year old players to go down. You have to take some gambles.

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Boob-No-More

I'd prefer to keep Joel, too, but in the above scenario we'd have Rasho as our back-up center for a year, plus Frye in case Oden got injured. Again, I'd rather have Joel's defense and rebounding on the second unit, but Rasho's a serviceable back-up center.

There are other younger, quicker, more defensive minded PGs I'd rather have than Calderon, but if Calderon is Pritchard's guy he won't come cheap. That might mean giving up Joel + Outlaw + ??? (possibly Jack as Toronto would need someone to back-up TJ if they lose Calderon). Joel would be the biggest loss, IMHO. With the addition of Oden and Rudy, both Outlaw and Jack become surplus. Jack, because Rudy instantly gets all his minutes and plays his role better. Outlaw because he gets squeezed out by the combination of Oden starting and Rudy coming off the bench. With Rudy on the second unit, Outlaw would no longer be the number 1 scoring option on the second unit. And with Oden starting at center and Rasho (or Joel if he isn't traded) backing him up, Frye would assume his natural role as the back-up power forward - where Outlaw played most of his minutes this season. If we're going to trade Outlaw, now is the time to do it, while his stock is high. If he loses touches to Rudy and PT to Frye, his scoring average and trade value will both go down.

BNM

Boob-No-More

Frye played almost all of his minutes out of position at center this season and that affected his numbers - although like you said he came on strong at the end when he was starting at center in place of Joel. The experience probably did him some good, but in the long run he's better suited to playing the back-up power forward spot and should shine against other teams' second unit power forwards. He also plays a very similar style offensively to Aldridge, which means the second unit could run the same offensive sets as the starters. It also means he could easily step in for LaMarcus in case of an !njury.

Outlaw isn't really a back-up power forward. He can shoot over anybody on offense, but he's not a great rebounder and can't body up defensively on burly, wide body power forwards. He's better suited to playing small forward. Like Frye, he spent much of the season playing out of position due to injuries (Oden and at the end, Przybilla). With Oden out, the Blazers were thin up front and that forced Outlaw to play the bulk of his minutes at the back-up 4 spot (as Frye was manning the back-up center position). I don't think this is the best long term use of his abilities. I'd rather have the taller, better rebounding Frye as my back-up power forward. Which means either trading Outlaw, moving him ahead of James Jone as the back-up small forward, and still likely seeing his scoring (and trade value) decrease as Rudy becomes the number one scoring option off the bench.

BNM

seifer0406