mediocre man

Why in the **** do you have The HUman Turnover starting? I agree with everything else though

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I'm Mediocre Man, and I approve this message.

B-Roy

I was just listing our players.

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Balian

We are not adding +4 players. I am fine with trading all of our 2nd rounders + player(s) for 1st rounder next year or the year after.. Pritchard has always been clear with his plan. In 2009, with the cap space, Pritchard will add veterans. But until then, let Oden, Rudy and the rest of the Blazer lineup gel for another year. There is no rush in adding an average point guard with a big contract.

Seriously, I can't possibly picture Hinrich being a championship point guard. We still have Pettri /#13/Roy to try out at point guard. Pritchard will make his move next year.

B-Roy

Even adding 2 players is too much. And I highly doubt we'd be able to trade these picks for something that we'd actually want.

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Yega1979

But right now, we have an opportunity we didn't expect. We may not be able to get a PG of Kirk Hinrich's quality via free agency. Then what? Soon we're going to have to re-sign our young guys to big contracts, and the free agency window will be closed.

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B_&_B

I think B-Roy's original offer for Hinrich/Nocioni is to much. #13 and either Jack, Webster, or Frye should be enough for Hinrich. I dont want Nocioni

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B-Roy

We're already getting Hinrich on the pretty cheap. And the salary doesn't match with your trade.

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Oldmangrouch

OK, 3 quick points.

1) If you find the player you are looking for, you grab him. Waiting another year if the player you really want is available now makes no sense.

2) Kirk would be a modest upgrade, but let's not get carried away.

3) Consider the cost-benefit analysis. If we draft somebody like Gordon or Westbrook, all it costs us is his rookie salary. (and the patience to sit thru his learning curve) If we trade for Kirk, it costs us both more money AND the talent we give up. We are paying a significant price just to avoid having to spend a season or two developing a guy who may be just as good as Kirk.

Sorry, but I don't see how this pencils out!

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Balian

What then? Perhaps one of our prospects at point guard (Pettri/Sergio/Roy/#13/etc) works out. Perhaps there will be another, better free agent. Perhaps another trade scenario will present itself. Right now, the option of Brandon Roy being our point guard is better and cheaper than trading for Hinrich.

All of these possibilities combined is A LOT MORE LIKELY than Hinrich(11.5 pts/6.0 ast/2.09 TO/.414 FG/.350 3pt)working out and winning championships for the Blazers.

Kirk Hinrich was the leader for the Bulls last year. Look how that turned out.

B-Roy

Why? Why? Why?

The Bulls imploded last season. Everyone took a step back. But factors like the coach, the Kobe trade rumors, and other random junk contributed to everyone playing poorly. Hinrich won't need to be the leader in Portland. He'll fit right in as a more than competent role player.

I love how everyone assumes worst possible outcome with Hinrich, and best possible outcome with our players.

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Balian

And I love how you assume the very best possible outcome with Hinrich and the worst outcome for our players. Even at the very best, Hinrich is pedestrian and probably would not help us win championships. Out frankly, Hinrich set a short ceiling that is quite easy to surpass.

B-Roy

When did I ever say that? I just think this is a good deal. Not everyone on the Blazers roster is going to become a stud. And with Rudy/Oden, it just seems unlikely anyones going to have a breakout season.

Hinrich is a clear upgrade at PG. You still haven't explained why Hinrich is so "pedestrian".

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GOD

I am luke warm on getting Hinrich, but don't want Nocioni.

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