Balian

Yeah, he will go back to his 0.414 FG and .3XX 3pt CAREER averages. No thanks.

B-Roy

I'd expect 45% shooting and 38% from 3. With decent assist numbers and good solid defense. (which is what he's more known for anyways.)

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Kmurph

IMO Hinrich is overated...certainly not worth the #13, Lafrentz contract and a Webster\Frye....

I think making that sort of deal is selling POR short...big time...I would be willing deal any\all of those assets for the right player...but Hinrich is not that player...

1) I don't think the roster state is bad at all...Not sure what you are refering to here.
2) I HIGHLY doubt POR adds 4 new draft picks to the roster
3) I agree that there needs to be some consolidation, but that doesn't mean it has to be THIS deal, or THIS offseason...I would rather see POR trade UP in the draft by consolidating assets to add another young top 10 pick, keep LaFrentz's contract and go after vets next offseason...

As for not enough time for young players...that is bogus...good players play...period...IF they are good enough they will earn the minutes....let competition decide who does\doesn't "get enough" minutes....

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B-Roy

Then what do you think a package of Raef, #13, Webster/Frye can really get?

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deanwoof

^ if someone says chris paul or deron williams i'm going to E-slap the crap out of you.

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B-Roy

That's the thing. There is no one else! Hinrich is a second tier point that can be gotten on the cheap, but Portland fans have to realize that you have to give some to get some.

If anyone can provide me with an alternate solution, I'd be more than willing to listen.

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ucatchtrout

All the trade proposals I have seen for this guy seem like we are giving away too much. If Chicago wants to get rid of him then its a buyers market....not a sellers market. No reason to throw the whole farm at them. Jack or Blake and an pick or two ought to be enough to get the deal done.

A trade for Hinrich will be difficult to pull off. Hinrich is a base year compensation player this year. Even though his 11.25 million salary would count against our cap, Chicago can only take 5.5 million and change for him. Because of this, Raef and his 12 million dollar deal can't be a part of a trade for Hinrich. The only way to do a deal now with the Bulls for Hinrich is to package a bunch of our young guys with small contracts. Jack, Blake, etc plus picks. Or, we could wait until after July 1st when he will no longer be counted as a base year player. But thats after the draft, so we still need to figure out what to do then with the number 13 pick. It seems to me awfully complicated to work a deal to get this guy. Is he that good? Do we really envision him as a starter on a championship team? If we don't, we are stuck with his contract for quite a while and lose the cap flexibility we gained when we got rid of Miles. I hear everyone wants a new PG. I don't think dealing for one just for the sake of dealing for one is worth it. I think if we bring in a new guy we need to see him as a significant upgrade over Blake and Sergio and as someone who would be a starter on a championship team or it isn't worth doing. Everyone whines about Sergio not getting enough minutes to develop. That won't happen if we bring in another guy. We should develop the guys we have or trade them. Except for Jack. I've already decided about him. Time for him to go.

Kmurph

I don't know...I think there is a good chance we are all going to find out though....

I think the situation in NY bears watching...#6 pick, they want to unload salary to go after Lebron(fool's gold if you ask me..I mean chances of acquiring him)...If your Pritchard is there a player at that pick enticing (and\or other players?) enough to take on some bloated salaries? Not sure there is...

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B-Roy

Portland could take back Zach Randolph. *ZING!*

Kidding.

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GOD

We can just make the trade happen after June 30th. I think that is when the BYC status is over.

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ucatchtrout

Yes. But that is after the draft, so the 13 pick can't be part of the deal.

The thing is though....Hinrich isn't worth all that. Like I said, Its a buyers market for Hinrich right now.

He had a bad year, and isn't that much of an upgrade over what we have. Why give up our cap space, plus talented young players, plus draft picks for a player who isn't that much better than what we have? Makes no sense to me. Better to stick with what we have, trade Jack, and give Sergio the minutes everyone says he needs to develop.

GOD

I agree that the proposal is too rich, but I wouldn't mind getting KH if the price was a little less. I don't want to also take on Nocioni, and so that makes trades difficult but still doable. If we send Raef and one of Outlaw/Web/Frye, we would be sending out 15.9-16.7 mil and KH would make 10.25mil. The Blazers would need to take back at least 12mil and up to 20.8mil, so the Bulls would need to add another contract of at least 1.75mil. Cedric Simmons,Thabo Sefolosha, Joakim Noah, Tyrus Thomas or some others could be added, but I don't think they would want to add Thomas or Noah or maybe Sefolosha as a throw in, so it would most likely be Simmons.

Then the Blazers would need to get rid of one or more of our PG's somewhere, and I don't think that the Bulls would want them, so we would need to find some way to send out Jack, maybe for a future lotto protected 1st from a below cap team or team with an exemption.

Out
Raef + Outlaw

In
KH and Simmons

Send Jack out

Kinrich/Blake/Sergio
Roy/Fernandez
Webster/Jones/(13th pick, Alexander/Greene/Budinger/Batum)
Aldridge/Frye/McRoberts/Simmons
Oden/Przybilla

Then we draft a C with one of our second round picks. Perhaps we could also cut Simmons or McRoberts and add an MLE vet or another second rounder/koponen/freeland.

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B-Roy

What would constitute a "good" upgrade then? Aside from the impossibles. (Paul, Parker, etc.)

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