craigehlo

He wants greatness? His breakout year only got him 13.3 ppg and 4.6 rebounds. He couldn't even take the starting sport away from Jones and Martell during the regular season. TO's an entertaining player, but I question his basketball IQ and I can't understate how lost he continues to be on defense. He's still a liability on that end of the floor.

As for the Jermaine comparisons, JO was only given 12 minutes per game the year before the was traded. TO averaged 26:41 minutes this season and posted modest stats.

Darkwebs

Man, I'd hate to see Travis go, but if we can score the #3 pick for Travis and the #13th, that sounds like a sweet deal to me.

But the point is probably moot, as I don't think Minnesota chooses our deal if the Buck's 8th and Yi/Villanueva are being offered.

With the 3rd pick, if by some miracle we do get it, I think we should choose best player available, whether that be Beasley or Mayo.

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Outlaw's asthma problems don't help either. I think he's excellent trade bait, depending of course on who we get in return.

JFizzleRaider

you guys are insane if you really think Outlaw and 13 for 3 isnt worth it. Outlaw is awesome don't get me wrong, but Mayo is going to be a cold hearted killer in this league.

Screw what KP said about not like Mayo, he says smokescreens all the time. Mayo with Oden, Roy, and LMA = an extremely unfair squad.

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BINGO!

PDXshelbyGT

Shoot, then let's just trade with the Bucks:

Travis + #13 + Raef's expirng

for

#8 (Westbrook) + Villanueva


Then move Jack + 2nd rounders to move back into the 1st round and select best available big man (banger or center)



Westbrook + Blake + Sergio + Koponen
Roy + Rudy
Villanueva + Webster
Aldridge + Frye + McBob
Oden + Pryz + Best Available Big

Dissonance19

Bucks want to move up, not down.

PDXshelbyGT

Well, we could include Jack along with Travis + #13 + Raef's expiring

for


Villanueva + #8 (Westbrook)



The Bucks, while initially wanting to move up, get Outlaw + Jack and move down only 5 spots - while also getting huge cap relief in Raef.

chairman

I think people are saying they would trade Travis and #13 for Rose or Beasely but it's the OTHER PROSPECTS that people are a little leery about. Every year we get all excited about the Morrison's and Bargnani's, and the Corey Freakin Brewers, that it's laughable. Now I admit that I am intrigued by Bayless and Westbrook, but even they are not necessarily a no-brainer. Use our assets to trade for the best possible scenario. But a prospect does not do it for me.

Blazer Freak

Players I would trade TO and 13 for: Rose, Beasley, Mayo, Bayless, Westbrook, and maybe DJ. While I really like Travis, if trading him is needed for us to upgrade talent at PG, or SF then we need to do it. I think something a lot of you forget is that in order to get talent you do have to trade some, I mean honestly these trade offers that many people post are so lopsided in our favor thats it's not even funny.

I know its hard to trade Travis because we have invested a lot of time in him and have seen him develop, but an athletic 3 is much easier to find then guards like Bayless, Westbrook and DJ.

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I'm open to trading most anyone including Travis... in fact I've included him in many hypotheticals I've thrown out. Unfortunately it seems that when posters are for trading a current player they've little good to say about them. Comparing TO to Salmons is case in point. Travis isn't highly valued just because he's a pretty decent player right now, it's because he's 23 and rapidly improving by finally tapping into his eyepopping athleticism.

But #13 + TO for #3 (Mayo or Beasley)??? That sounds like a complete fleecing. Yes please!

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I am completely astounded by the homerism on this board right now. Any time you have a chance to trade run of the mill players for star caliber players, you pull the trigger as long as they will fit in.

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BIG Q

But it won't be that simple. Travis makes $4 mil per year. Draft picks have zero value in trades. That means we have to also take salary back from the team that we send Travis to. I am sure if we are trying to get the third pick from Minny they will be sending us Jarics anchor of a contract. Then we may have to add another player to match up with Jarics money.

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