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07-11-2008, 03:01 PM
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OT: Knicks decline Randolph trade (This is seriously funny)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ers/index.html
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While the Knicks are known to be interested in clearing cap space by 2010 to make a run at LeBron James or other potential free agents, the sources said New York wanted more than simple cap relief in exchange for Randolph. The Knicks appear to believe that Randolph will provide a highly productive season under new coach Mike D'Antoni, which could raise his value much higher than it is today. That's why the Knicks were not interested in nearly giving away Randolph's contract, according to the sources.
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I can't tell who fails more, the Clippers for giving an offer, or the Knicks for declining. 
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07-11-2008, 03:06 PM
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Re: OT: Knicks decline Randolph trade (This is seriously funny)
I wouldn't trade Randolph for nothing but cap relief either.
I realize he's hated here, but he's still a valuable player on the court. He's still one of the better post scorers in the league and a good rebounder. Sure, his defense stinks and he's not a good passer. That's why he's no superstar. That doesn't make him worthless.
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07-11-2008, 03:06 PM
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Re: OT: Knicks decline Randolph trade (This is seriously funny)
In hindsight, it does appear that, at least in this case, Pritchard managed to "sell high" really quite well.
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07-11-2008, 03:08 PM
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Re: OT: Knicks decline Randolph trade (This is seriously funny)
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I wouldn't trade Randolph for nothing but cap relief either.
I realize he's hated here, but he's still a valuable player on the court. He's still one of the better post scorers in the league and a good rebounder. Sure, his defense stinks and he's not a good passer. That's why he's no superstar. That doesn't make him worthless.
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Considering the fact that we basically traded him for cap-space, and the fact that he's coming off an worse season, why wouldn't you trade him for cap-space? He's a ballhog, has no defense, sucks at passing, and scored less in the post this season.
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07-11-2008, 03:10 PM
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Re: OT: Knicks decline Randolph trade (This is seriously funny)
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I wouldn't trade Randolph for nothing but cap relief either.
I realize he's hated here, but he's still a valuable player on the court. He's still one of the better post scorers in the league and a good rebounder. Sure, his defense stinks and he's not a good passer. That's why he's no superstar. That doesn't make him worthless.
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Are you considering the huge contract he makes when you say that? Or are you completely discounting the fact he has this huge contract hanging over his head?
If I were the Knicks, what I would do is bite the bullett this season, plan on getting pounded, and make Zbo the total focus of the offense in order to increase his value, and then ship him. The problem is, the Knicks get more coverage than a lot of teams, so folks can actually see what Zbo does on the floor, so it might not work out. We were fortunate that Portlands media market is very small, and because of that, we would swindle somebody into taking him.
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07-11-2008, 03:15 PM
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Re: OT: Knicks decline Randolph trade (This is seriously funny)
I would have loved it if Zach ended up in LA. We would have scored 200 points against them.
Really dumb move by the Knicks I think. They need to rebuild, and they have the ability to attract some good FA's because of their market. They should look to clear cap space, and not HAVE to take back something they really don't want for a player who has no value around the league
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07-11-2008, 03:18 PM
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Re: OT: Knicks decline Randolph trade (This is seriously funny)
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Considering the fact that we basically traded him for cap-space, and the fact that he's coming off an worse season, why wouldn't you trade him for cap-space? He's a ballhog, has no defense, sucks at passing, and scored less in the post this season.
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So Channing Frye and A trade Exception used to lease James Jones and Buy Rudy Fernandez is nothing.
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07-11-2008, 03:18 PM
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Re: OT: Knicks decline Randolph trade (This is seriously funny)
I agree with Minstrel that Randolph still has value on the court. My concern from the Knicks' perspective is whether or not he's a good enough fit at the offensive end for his new coach (running the floor, passing, getting shots off inside of seven seconds, etc.). He's certainly a fit on the defensive side, though, so maybe they're half way there. 
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07-11-2008, 03:22 PM
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Re: OT: Knicks decline Randolph trade (This is seriously funny)
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So Channing Frye and A trade Exception used to lease James Jones and Buy Rudy Fernandez is nothing.
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You really consider Channing Frye good value?
You can leave the TE out of it. What we did with the exception is not included in the value of the trade. That's just your GM being smart.
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07-11-2008, 03:26 PM
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Re: OT: Knicks decline Randolph trade (This is seriously funny)
The Knicks should have taken whatever 1-2mil contract needed in return to trade Randolph to the Clippers along with a future 1st from LA and ran away before the Clippers realized the horrible mistake they had made...
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07-11-2008, 03:27 PM
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Re: OT: Knicks decline Randolph trade (This is seriously funny)
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You really consider Channing Frye good value?
You can leave the TE out of it. What we did with the exception is not included in the value of the trade. That's just your GM being smart.
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Channing is not cap space. Prove me wrong on that one, trple dog dare ya!
And as I understand it hte Blazers restructured the NY deal last minute in order to get the TE as they already had the deal lined up with Phoenix and needed the TE to make it work. If acquiring the TE was a reaction to the other deal being made then IMO the value counts in the trade.
Regardless you said we traded ach for cap space... We got a backup PF that played really well for at the end of the season and factors to be an important piece this year, and we also landed other assets that were used. If you want to ignore what we used them for, fine be stubborn, but the fact is we got the Assets and used them.
We traded Zach for Cap space, Channign Frye and a TE.
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07-11-2008, 03:30 PM
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Re: OT: Knicks decline Randolph trade (This is seriously funny)
Wow.
The animosity towards Zach is really sad.
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07-11-2008, 03:33 PM
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Re: OT: Knicks decline Randolph trade (This is seriously funny)
It might just be posturing to get a better deal. When push comes to shove, the Knicks will trade Zach.
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07-11-2008, 03:34 PM
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