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Why would Darius NOT want to come back? If I had gotten used to sitting on a bench in a suit making a large paycheck I would try to get on another team as well. I don't think it's malicious, I think it's a desire to make some extra cash. Darius is 27, he probably figures he has one more NBA contract left before he is done. He will try to get back into shape, get a contract, and then "play" another three seasons. In reality, he'll probably sit on a bench for three more years, but that doesn't bother him.
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His lack of motivation problem showed itself well before the injury. The day he got hurt, he was basicaly the same player he was when he entered the league. If he had a normal growth curve and an even average work ethic, he would have been a borderline all-star. Instead, he was content to cash his checks and just coast.

I do find it rather ironic that so many Blazer fans will flame Sheed for being an "underachiever" and/or Zach for being "lazy" - but just shrug and give Miles a free pass.
Lack of motivation before the injury and after the injury are two different things. All of last season it seemed he was working hard to get back on the court. I wouldnt have been motivated to get back to this Blazers team in 2004, 2005, or even 2006 either, we weren't very good. But with the additions we made, and more time healing it seemed like he was trying more and more to get on the court (plus the team was playing well). That being sad, the Blazers may not have wanted him back, and the coaching staff and management made it clear to keep Miles away from the team.

Also, it appears just as many fans arent giving Miles a free pass (just as the didnt Sheed or Zach) but there are also many of us, and I cant speak for Fork here but I can myself, who enjoyed Sheed and Zbo. And although I like what we have now, what we got in return for those players at the time didnt justify us getting rid of them.

Also, if we are paying Miles $9mil next season, and he signs with another team he would be getting paychecks from both teams, correct? It seems odd for a player to be getting paid from two teams at the same time to me.
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Lack of motivation before the injury and after the injury are two different things. All of last season it seemed he was working hard to get back on the court. I wouldnt have been motivated to get back to this Blazers team in 2004, 2005, or even 2006 either, we weren't very good. But with the additions we made, and more time healing it seemed like he was trying more and more to get on the court (plus the team was playing well). That being sad, the Blazers may not have wanted him back, and the coaching staff and management made it clear to keep Miles away from the team.

Also, it appears just as many fans arent giving Miles a free pass (just as the didnt Sheed or Zach) but there are also many of us, and I cant speak for Fork here but I can myself, who enjoyed Sheed and Zbo. And although I like what we have now, what we got in return for those players at the time didnt justify us getting rid of them.

Also, if we are paying Miles $9mil next season, and he signs with another team he would be getting paychecks from both teams, correct? It seems odd for a player to be getting paid from two teams at the same time to me.
He's still getting paid the 9 mill anyway I think. It's just not on our books.
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He's still getting paid the 9 mill anyway I think. It's just not on our books.
I believe that is correct. The team still has to honor the contract, they just don't have to count him against the cap. I don't even have a problem with that, since it was a basketball related injury.

This part I am a little confused on: if he signs with somebody else, the Blazers have to pay him $9 million minus 50% of his new salary? Is that correct?
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Someone will give Miles the veterans' minimum.The league will pay a substantial part of that and the team he signs with will only have to pay around 700 thousand.It won't even count against the MLE and you don't have to be under the salary cap.If he really looks like he can play someone will absolutely give him a chance because they'll have nothing to lose.Portland will be responsible for the difference between the veteran's minimum and the contract...Maybe they'll have to pay the part that the league pays.
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Lack of motivation before the injury and after the injury are two different things. All of last season it seemed he was working hard to get back on the court. I wouldnt have been motivated to get back to this Blazers team in 2004, 2005, or even 2006 either, we weren't very good. But with the additions we made, and more time healing it seemed like he was trying more and more to get on the court (plus the team was playing well). That being sad, the Blazers may not have wanted him back, and the coaching staff and management made it clear to keep Miles away from the team.

Also, it appears just as many fans arent giving Miles a free pass (just as the didnt Sheed or Zach) but there are also many of us, and I cant speak for Fork here but I can myself, who enjoyed Sheed and Zbo. And although I like what we have now, what we got in return for those players at the time didnt justify us getting rid of them.

Also, if we are paying Miles $9mil next season, and he signs with another team he would be getting paychecks from both teams, correct? It seems odd for a player to be getting paid from two teams at the same time to me.

Based on what information was he "working hard"? Every time I saw the guy he was either eating ice cream or drinking beer. Plus he was a good 15 lbs over his playing weight. He spectactularly failed the basic fitness test in which the Blazers have their players participate.

I wonder about his drug suspension. I wonder if he was taking some sort of weight loss concoction.
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Miles and miles of *******, beer, and benjamins

Once upon a time DMiles was my favorite blazer player. I loved it when he joined our team. His style of play added an exciting element to our teams game. Like other fans and the owner of our team Paul Allen I was looking forward to seeing him play for our team for a long time.

I didn’t feel that way for very long, because it didn’t take all that long for him to show us who he really is A doper, a drunk, and a slacker. A guy who called his coach that word that begins with an N that just about everyone finds offensive. A guy who helped get that coach fired, and a guy who now says… “The truth is, Maurice Cheeks was the best coach I had because he was the first person who told me I had way more potential than I was giving,”

I remember just a few months ago when Darius decided to hit the town with former Oregon Duck quarterback Dennis Dixon. Perhaps, as a pro athlete he thought it would be good thing to take a young fella out and mentor him. Providing a bit of fatherly advice for someone starting his pro career sounds like a nice thing to do.

So Miles showed up at the Dolphin2, Dennis in tow, and showed him what being a pro athlete was all about. *******, beer and benjamins. Stacks and stacks of 50 hundred dollar bills. Hundred dollar bills flying through the air to the delight of the dancers and no doubt young Dennis. The dancers had a good time, and I am sure Dennis and Darius had a good time because they made several trips to the VIP room. Usually those who visit the VIP room do have a good time. At least so I’m told. Of course, Darius is married so he probably just went in there for some conversation about his family.

Family is very important to Darius. Or so he would have us believe. Just recently he told Sports Illustrateds Ian Thomsen “I just had a son, he’s six months old, and I want my son to see me play basketball”. Hello, Darius? Were you thinking about your son when you went to the nudie bar with Dennis when he was just a few weeks old? Would you like your son to see you throwing stacks of hundreds at strippers?

Miles tells Thomsen that he thinks the labels people have placed upon him a bit unfair. “I don’t do anything out of the ordinary. It’s crazy how you get labeled.” I guess I am a little naive, because in the world I have known I wouldn’t call that trip to the strip club ordinary. Nor would I call saying the kinds of things he said to his boss (Cheeks) ordinary.

Maybe all those ******* and beer have affected his memory. It wasn’t all that long ago Miles told John Canzano…“Yeah, you probably smelled liquor on me before. But it’s not like I’m at practice drunk. I’m totally focused. I don’t care if you come to practice and take shower, once you go to practice and start sweating, its going to come out. That doesn’t mean you aren’t focused or ready to practice. Like you might go out, you might get drunk, and come to the gym higher than a mother, and you sweating, you smell like liquor, and you interviewing everybody. What does that mean? You still 100 percent focused. That’s just ridiculous. Ask any other team, little petty stuff like that, if you ask any other coach in the NBA if they smell liquor on a player, any coach would say, every year. Some players go out in every city they go to.”

That sounds more like a guy who doesn’t care what others think than a guy who is truly concerned with what other people think of him.

Darius entire attitude and demeanor changed after he signed a 48 million dollar deal with the Blazers. He got his. There was nothing left to play for.

He rewarded the man who placed forty eight million dollars of faith in him and who gave him a contract which was a lot more than he was expecting with halfhearted efforts and a bad attitude. He took the team out to a night club BEFORE a game on a road trip in Indiana. He and his posse were often in the news in connection with a disturbance at strip clubs, bars, and there were rumors of drug abuse and a connection to the Woods dogfighting scandal.

Ian Thomsen makes Miles sound like some sort of misunderstood boy scout in his SI article. Not once did he mention a named credible source that stated Miles medical condition was sound, or that he was demonstrating on a basketball court the ability to play at the level he was able to play at before his injury.

How many Benjamins did Miles agent stuff into Thomsens pocket to get him to promote him in this way? Why did Thomsen so willingly act as Miles tool?

Miles and his agent are clearly blowing smoke in every direction they can in one last attempt at cashing in on a contract he will not ever fulfill. Ian Thomsen is helping them do it.

I don’t condemn Miles for his attempt to resume his career. I do not respect him for the way he behaved after Paul Allen made him a very rich man. He made us believe he was someone he wasn’t, and as a result he got a big prize. A 48 million dollar contract.

He is not fooling me anymore. He is an ***. A very rich ***. But an *** nonetheless. All the garbage I read about him being a family man and having a burning desire to play basketball again are stories. Stories he and his agent are using to fool someone else into signing him to another deal.

Mike Barratt says the Blazers doctors have told him Miles knee is bone on bone. Kevin Pritchard said today on 95.5 the game that their doctor told Miles that if he was his own son he would tell him to never again play basketball. The likely scenario for Miles playing again would be that he would blow his knee out and require total knee replacement resulting in him never being able to walk properly.

We know Miles has been suspended for the league for violation of the substance abuse policy. Since it is a ten game suspension, as Jason Quick surmises, it is likely for steroids.

“Ten games is a very specific number, if you take that information to the CBA, you’ll find that there are two ways to get that suspension: For a fourth marijuana offense, or for a first performance enhancing drugs offense.

In the event that a ten-game suspension is for a fourth marijuana offense, it would follow a five-game suspension (for the third-marijuana offense). Darius Miles has not had a five-game suspension, and the League confirms that if he had had an earlier five-game suspension, we would know about it.”

I don’t think Miles wants to play basketball. I do think he misses the lifestyle. And I do think he’d take whatever drugs he thought might get him through a one year deal, hoping to snag one last big payoff. I think he and his agent are after some more money. And I wouldn’t put anything past them in their attempt to get it.
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******* are the devil? Give me a break... some of the most notorious sex offenders and downright scum of the universe happen to be "family-men, catholics". So be careful when you throw around your lopsided opinion.

Darius maybe lazy, and a bad example of a pro athlete, but come on, just because he goes to a strip club doest mean d!ck, they're legal and around for a reason. It's like saying because so-and-so played GTA, he went out and killed a hooker on the street, or some crap along those lines..

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Hey I never said there was anything wrong with *******, or beer.

You missed the point.

We have a self professed family man here, a dedicated professional, a student of the game, or we have a lying two faced piece of **** blowing smoke up our asses.

Miles is a piece of ****. He only pulls out that other crap when he has an agenda. An agenda like marketing himself for more benjamins. When he isn't marketing, he doesn't give a crap what anyone thinks about who he is or what he does. Its not the titties and beer that bother me. Its the smoke he tries to blow up peoples asses so he can sell himself.

Don't you find it ironic that a guy who attempts to market himself as a family man trolls for hotties on myspace?

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Hey I never said there was anything wrong with *******, or beer.

You missed the point.

We have a self professed family man here, a dedicated professional, a student of the game, or we have a lying two faced piece of **** blowing smoke up our asses.

Miles is a piece of ****. He only pulls out that other crap when he has an agenda. An agenda like marketing himself for more benjamins. When he isn't marketing, he doesn't give a crap what anyone thinks about who he is or what he does. Its not the titties and beer that bother me. Its the smoke he tries to blow up peoples asses so he can sell himself.

Don't you find it ironic that a guy who attempts to market himself as a family man trolls for hotties on myspace?
First of all, you have no way of knowing that MySpace profile is really Darius Miles, there are like five MySpace pages claiming to be him. MySpace is a social network for people who want to pretend to have friends.

Secondly, the only AGENDA here is the ones that some people here (http://www.basketballforum.com/portl...s-hang-up.html) have to keep Darius off the court. The guys likes ****, who cares.

Thirdly, the Blazers made it clear they didnt want Miles here and made no effort to keep him on this team. I hope he was a successful career elsewhere. Even if we have to pay him to do it.

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Hey I never said there was anything wrong with *******, or beer.

You missed the point.

We have a self professed family man here, a dedicated professional, a student of the game, or we have a lying two faced piece of **** blowing smoke up our asses.

Miles is a piece of ****. He only pulls out that other crap when he has an agenda. An agenda like marketing himself for more benjamins. When he isn't marketing, he doesn't give a crap what anyone thinks about who he is or what he does. Its not the titties and beer that bother me. Its the smoke he tries to blow up peoples asses so he can sell himself.