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Old 07-17-2008, 10:33 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter

Nah NJ isnt trading Vince. Besides the Blazers would be causing too much problems for the league with that much talent. Thorn isnt here to do other teams favors
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:35 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter

Blazers are better off without Vince. The Nets would be so lucky to get a couple of our players.
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter

The Nets arent complaining and have shown no indication they will trade him or want to trade him. Clearly they are positioning themselves for the 2010 FA bonanza. They are in no rush to trade Vince, besides they have a ton of young players on their squad. Vince's veteran leadership is needed on the Nets too
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totally agree with this post except the last word.
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What???

I disagree that we need to trade for a veteran. I think Roy and Outlaw are our veterans. Let's let the cake bake.
I disagree. I think it makes a ton of sense. Maybe not Vince Carter, but someone like that. Chauncey Billups or Prince would be two examples.

I understand wanting to let the cake bake for one more year, and it would pain me to trade basically anyone on the roster, but at some point the stock on some of these young guys is going to go down, if for no other reason than they don't get to play. If we can trade a few of our young assets and land the right kind of talented veteran, I say we do it. But by no means do I think it's a necessity this year, and it should only be done if it's for the right price and player. I know it would affect our precious capspace and all that.
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter

F--- Vince Carter for the numerous reasons outlined already by Balian and MrJayremmie. The guy is a turd. We've got scorers, and VC's veteran "leadership" is seriously overrated. This team just needs to gel next year and it'll be fine.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:21 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I beleive he clearly specifyed that it was not a rumor but an example. I however, See his point in him saying that the Blazers have to many young players under contract and moveing a cupple of them for a good vet. Vince Carter is just one or, How about Chauncey Billups ect. Don't give me any of that garbage about window time either. You know the blazers want to win now and they are ready.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter

I would take Vince Carter if it was a fire sale like Camby... If it's not a great deal, then let's wait until the trade deadline.

But, of course, if it's for something like Raef and Fyre, etc... I wouldn't mind finding room for Vince Carter (or trading him elsewhere for a profit)
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Old 07-18-2008, 12:02 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter

I wouldn't trade for a veteran this offseason. I'd do it next season. Why? Because this season is when we find out what this team is really made of. Demopoulos made reference to it in tonight's interview.

How many variables do the Blazers have right now?

- how healthy and productive will Greg Oden be, and how much of a defensive stopper and offensive playmaker will he be?

- how will LaMarcus Aldridge co-exist with Oden?

- can Brandon Roy still flourish when the Blazers will be even more post-oriented with Oden inside?

- how good is Rudy Fernandez? what's his best position - alongside Roy, or in the second unit?

- how good is Jerryd Bayless? good enough to be the PG, potentially, of a championship contender, or only good enough to be that combo guard off the bench?

- is this a good enough defensive team to get stops, and an athletic enough team to convert those stops into easy points?

- will Webster show even more consistency, or will he backslide, making himself more expendable?

- was Outlaw's year an aberration, or has he really started to put it together - and will he fit in a rotation with Aldridge, Frye and Diogu at PF, or will he do well at SF?

- if Oden's going to be pretty healthy, do the Blazers need Joel Pryzbilla, or can they get by with someone with less value?

- what's the deal with Steve Blake?

- and finally, does this team have the leadership and poise to win playoff games?

Once the Blazers' brain trust have answers for those questions, I think they should make a decision on whether the team needs a vet. I'm reluctant, simply because I remember the nightmare of the '00-'02 teams, when the Blazers loaded up with Rod Strickland (the second time) and Detlef Schrempf, and what chemistry the team had just evaporated. The Blazers are set for the upcoming season. What they need to change will all depend on how the season answers the questions up above (and I'm sure, there are more questions I'm not thinking of...).
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Can Vince play SF?
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:45 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter

Here's the solution:

Portland trades Raef and Travis to New Jersey
New Jersey sends Carter to Houston
Houston sends SHANE BATTIER and Bobby Jackson to Portland

(We could just waive Jackson - he's only on a 1-year deal.)

If you want to tinker, go ahead, but I like the basics of Carter to Houston (I think he and McGrady are ready to try again) and Battier to us.
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:51 AM   #27 (permalink)
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How about we not and say we did?
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