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07-18-2008, 10:00 AM
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter
Balian, what do you have against Vince? You keep bringing up issues from the past, and ignore the fact that ever since Vince has been in New Jersey he has been a model citizen. You never hear about him getting into trouble with the law, he also happens to be one of the most charitable individuals in the game. He'd be a class act in Portland. Thats just off the court, on the court, he gives you a legit 20-23ppg/5apg/5rpg. How many guards or players in the league are capable of that?
Realize last year his scoring numbers dipped because he played on a bone spur in his ankle for close to 70 games
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07-18-2008, 10:02 AM
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#32 (permalink)
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter
It's been mentioned that Aldridge was just trying to use an example to show what he thinks Ptd should do . . . package young potential pieces for a vet. He makes a good point that with all this talent, someone isn't going to be happy sitting on the bench waiting for their chance (could be a long wait with all that young talent in front of them). Besides making more for roster spots available allows KP to work his magic and fill those spots with more potential players in future drafts and free agent market.
The Carter thing isn't going to happen. Besides being on the decline, he has attitude issues and if not properly motivated, admittedly does not put in a full effort. Now he is even an older vet that if things don't go his way in a small market team . . . that is a bad combo.
Also, I like Aldridge, but it's not like he studies the Blazers. He was convinced Batum was going back overseas (contray to reports we have read, certainly isn't a given) and didn't know or think the Blazers had any roster spots left for Kop. So the Cater thing was just an off the cuff example of the point he was trying to make.
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07-18-2008, 10:10 AM
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter
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How about we not and say we did?
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How about we don't say we did and simply, not. No reason to pretend.
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07-18-2008, 10:25 AM
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter
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Here's the solution:
Portland trades Raef and Travis to New Jersey
New Jersey sends Carter to Houston
Houston sends SHANE BATTIER and Bobby Jackson to Portland
(We could just waive Jackson - he's only on a 1-year deal.)
If you want to tinker, go ahead, but I like the basics of Carter to Houston (I think he and McGrady are ready to try again) and Battier to us.
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I'm not against getting Battier, but your proposal has us wiping out our salary cap room and losing Outlaw, for Battier? Much to high a price. Raef's contract will only be used if the target is at the same level as the top free agents they are looking at.
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07-18-2008, 10:28 AM
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter
The Blazers would have to give up Webster, Sergio and probably Batum (along with Raef's expiring) in order to get Carter. The Nets already have a plethora of young big men (Lopez, Yi, Boone, Williams, Anderson) so they wouldn't want Frye. They could also ask for one of the guys Portland has the rights to - Freeland/Kopponen.
He's a chucker. I don't know if he would fit that well with the current team, but he certainly would make you look even better on paper and replace A LOT of youth with some experience.
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07-18-2008, 10:38 AM
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter
What ever happened to Freeland? Why isn't he in summer league?
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07-18-2008, 10:41 AM
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter
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Balian, what do you have against Vince? You keep bringing up issues from the past, and ignore the fact that ever since Vince has been in New Jersey he has been a model citizen. You never hear about him getting into trouble with the law, he also happens to be one of the most charitable individuals in the game. He'd be a class act in Portland. Thats just off the court, on the court, he gives you a legit 20-23ppg/5apg/5rpg. How many guards or players in the league are capable of that?
Realize last year his scoring numbers dipped because he played on a bone spur in his ankle for close to 70 games
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What do I have against Vince? He committed the cardinal sin of professional sport. He dogged his game just to get traded. This is the worst thing you could do as a professional athletic.
Also, he is 31 yr old. He is too old for this team. If KP is looking to land a veteran, he is looking at players 28 or under. Barrett was on the radio indicating KP's intention in regards to veterans. He specifically addressed the Vince Carter comment.
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07-18-2008, 10:48 AM
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter
I think it was Barrett who was on 95.5 this morning, talking about if the Blazers were to trade for a veteran, it'd be for a 26-28 year old player, NOT a guy in his 30's like Vince.
I think Vince had the talent to be really great, one of the best to ever play the game, but didn't have the MJ-like desire to. He had a good career, but just isn't a good fit for this team at this time.
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07-18-2008, 10:58 AM
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter
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Originally Posted by Damian Necronamous
The Blazers would have to give up Webster, Sergio and probably Batum (along with Raef's expiring) in order to get Carter. The Nets already have a plethora of young big men (Lopez, Yi, Boone, Williams, Anderson) so they wouldn't want Frye. They could also ask for one of the guys Portland has the rights to - Freeland/Kopponen.
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Why do you think it would take all those players? Didn't they trade RJ for just Yi?
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07-18-2008, 10:58 AM
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter
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How about we don't say we did and simply, not. No reason to pretend.
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How about we don't say we did, and not, but let others think we did?
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07-18-2008, 11:06 AM
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter
My favorite nickname for Vince Carter is "Half-Man Half-a-Season" (from Hardwood Paroxysm).
I think that sums up my feelings about trading for him.
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07-18-2008, 11:28 AM
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter
He has missed only a handful of games in the past 4 or so seasons
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07-18-2008, 11:35 AM
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter
Getting Vince Carter would be like watching this commercial over and over and over and over and over again.
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and thats just because we'd have to deal with his idiot fanbase (excluding, of course, Max).
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07-18-2008, 11:43 AM
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