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Old 07-18-2008, 12:05 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Blazers Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter

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It's been mentioned that Aldridge was just trying to use an example to show what he thinks Ptd should do . . . package young potential pieces for a vet. He makes a good point that with all this talent, someone isn't going to be happy sitting on the bench waiting for their chance (could be a long wait with all that young talent in front of them). Besides making more for roster spots available allows KP to work his magic and fill those spots with more potential players in future drafts and free agent market.

The Carter thing isn't going to happen. Besides being on the decline, he has attitude issues and if not properly motivated, admittedly does not put in a full effort. Now he is even an older vet that if things don't go his way in a small market team . . . that is a bad combo.

Also, I like Aldridge, but it's not like he studies the Blazers. He was convinced Batum was going back overseas (contray to reports we have read, certainly isn't a given) and didn't know or think the Blazers had any roster spots left for Kop. So the Cater thing was just an off the cuff example of the point he was trying to make.
I don't really think vary many people understand the ward example in here. David Aldridge made that vary clear. He also does have a point about all the young players under contract
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Old 07-18-2008, 01:32 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter

Vince Carter is still a vary terrible example for his fit with the team and his contract, which would overlap the extensions to Aldridge and Roy. Josh Howard would be a much better fit as a player, and his contract is manageable and up in only two years.
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Vince Carter is still a vary terrible example for his fit with the team and his contract, which would overlap the extensions to Aldridge and Roy. Josh Howard would be a much better fit as a player, and his contract is manageable and up in only two years.
I think the point was more about sending young players with potential for a vet and he used a team that is looking to rebuild. True Cater wasn't the best example, but Dallas isn't looking to rebuild.

My guess is that if Dallas trades Howard, it will be for a player(s) that will step in and contribute right away. Dallas hasn't raised the white flag and decided to break down the team looking towards the future like NJ is doing . . . yet.
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Blazers Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter

A better example Aldridge should have used would have been Chauncey Billups. Detroit is looking for some young pieces and I think Billups might be tradeable.
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Old 07-18-2008, 02:18 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter

vince carter would instantly make us contenders for the title, while clearing roster spots, and giving us one of the best all around offensive players in the game. if we could get him for cheap cheap(like raef/sergio/webster), we would be fools not to jump on that in a heartbeat.

check his stats since he has been in new jersey, and try to find someone better. (ill give you a hint, its a short list full of future hall of famers)
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I think the point was more about sending young players with potential for a vet and he used a team that is looking to rebuild. True Cater wasn't the best example, but Dallas isn't looking to rebuild.

My guess is that if Dallas trades Howard, it will be for a player(s) that will step in and contribute right away. Dallas hasn't raised the white flag and decided to break down the team looking towards the future like NJ is doing . . . yet.
Well they should be looking to rebuild, that team is going nowhere fast. Fair point though, I wasn't thinking about the motivation for the other team. I still think an Outlaw/Webster + Koponen + ??? would be attractive to them after what happened during the playoffs.
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Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter

Why are we jumping David Aldridge's nuts for suggesting this team go out and get for example a proven veteran like Carter? I don't want Carter, but that's not because I think he's a terrible guy or a terrible player, I just think he doesn't bring the complimentary skill set that this particular roster needs.

If the Blazers are trying to fill holes, then I think they need a solid veteran, defensive minded wing, who can hit the open 3 (ala James Posey, Shane Battier, Ron Artest, Tayshaun Prince, et. al.).

I was definitely one of those people who felt for a very long time that we should keep everyone together and let them develop organically, but lately I'm leaning more and more toward the line of thought that sees a looming minute crunch for a lot of young guys who are not going to be pleased rotting on the bench, especially as many are going to be coming up on contract years. It's not just about veteran leadership, but this team is setting itself up for a chemistry "crisis" with too many bodies and not enough minutes to go around.
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Blazers Re: David Aldridge says we should trade for Vince Carter

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vince carter would instantly make us contenders for the title, while clearing roster spots, and giving us one of the best all around offensive players in the game. if we could get him for cheap cheap(like raef/sergio/webster), we would be fools not to jump on that in a heartbeat.

check his stats since he has been in new jersey, and try to find someone better. (ill give you a hint, its a short list full of future hall of famers)
I would do that trade in a heartbeat. I would even though in a 2nd rounder for next year. Although I think Jersey might want Outlaw insted of Webster.
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