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08-05-2008, 10:52 AM
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The Value Of Standing Pat
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Unless you're the Boston Celtics, you're heading into the summer of 2008 with the idea that your team has to improve. Teams like Philadelphia (Elton Brand), Houston (Ron Artest), and Toronto (Jermaine O'Neal) made big splashes this offseason to try and put themselves in a position to win the NBA title.
But not every team in the league sees the current hierarchy of the league and immediate need for change. In fact, there are some teams that would likely benefit from just leaving the roster alone and giving it another run in 2008-2009.
It's not easy resisting the temptation to make a major move, especially with the large quantity of major moves that gone down the last two seasons, but the following teams did exactly that, and may be better off because of it.........
Portland Trail Blazers:
Without question, Portland is the most frightening young team in the Western Conference, and besides drafting Jerryd Bayless and sending away Jarrett Jack this is the exact same team it was last year only a year older.
Don't forget the Blazers made drastic improvements last season without getting a single game from the number one overall selection in the 2007 draft, Greg Oden. Now that the team's center of the future is back in the fold, and Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge continue to look better and better, there's no telling what this team could do in a few years' time.
This is a very good young team. There's not much more GM Kevin Pritchard can do to position his organization to win long-term. He's a wise man for leaving this roster alone.
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08-05-2008, 01:30 PM
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Re: The Value Of Standing Pat
Agreed. We need to keep this roster how it is and let it grow. BAKE THE CAKE BABY!!!1
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08-05-2008, 02:47 PM
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Re: The Value Of Standing Pat
Adding Oden, Rudy, and Bayless is "standing pat?"
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08-05-2008, 02:52 PM
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Re: The Value Of Standing Pat
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Adding Oden, Rudy, and Bayless is "standing pat?"
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Pretty darn close, really. We have the benefit of getting better without having to make a blockbuster deal that ships out a major player. In essence we simply drafted into our improvement this year. Since the draft is compulsory, not extra-curricular, we improve by not "making a move". We're just really, really good (and lucky) at the draft.
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08-05-2008, 03:03 PM
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Re: The Value Of Standing Pat
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Pretty darn close, really. We have the benefit of getting better without having to make a blockbuster deal that ships out a major player. In essence we simply drafted into our improvement this year. Since the draft is compulsory, not extra-curricular, we improve by not "making a move". We're just really, really good (and lucky) at the draft.
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Go tell Jarret Jack, Josh McRoberts, Ike Diogu, and Brandon Rush we "simply drafted" and decided to stand pat. They might see it a little differently.
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08-05-2008, 03:19 PM
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Re: The Value Of Standing Pat
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Go tell Jarret Jack, Josh McRoberts, Ike Diogu, and Brandon Rush we "simply drafted" and decided to stand pat. They might see it a little differently.
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Or Darrell Arthur, Joey Dorsey and Omer Asik.
Only Pritchard can make deals all throughout the draft and be described as "standing pat."
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08-05-2008, 04:05 PM
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Re: The Value Of Standing Pat
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Originally Posted by BlazerCaravan
Pretty darn close, really. We have the benefit of getting better without having to make a blockbuster deal that ships out a major player. In essence we simply drafted into our improvement this year. Since the draft is compulsory, not extra-curricular, we improve by not "making a move". We're just really, really good (and lucky) at the draft.
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Exactamundo.
I think this point had basically escaped a few others in here.
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08-05-2008, 04:44 PM
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Re: The Value Of Standing Pat
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Go tell Jarret Jack, Josh McRoberts, Ike Diogu, and Brandon Rush we "simply drafted" and decided to stand pat. They might see it a little differently.
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Which one of those players had a future here? Which one are we hurting to lose? Which one is a major piece?
Jack was the least inconsequential player traded by us, but less consequential than Bayless. Therefore, the draft is more important than the deal. Ergo, we stood pat.
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08-05-2008, 05:18 PM
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Re: The Value Of Standing Pat
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Therefore, the draft is more important than the deal. Ergo, we stood pat.
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Okay. So, by that logic, Portland stood pat last year and the year before that.
The "draft" (which you seem to use to encompass any trades made regarding draft picks) has been more important than any non-draft-related deal ever since Pritchard got here.
Ergo, Portland has "stood pat" during Pritchard's entire time here as GM.
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08-05-2008, 05:23 PM
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Re: The Value Of Standing Pat
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Okay. So, by that logic, Portland stood pat last year and the year before that.
The "draft" (which you seem to use to encompass any trades made regarding draft picks) has been more important than any non-draft-related deal ever since Pritchard got here.
Ergo, Portland has "stood pat" during Pritchard's entire time here as GM.
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The only exception to that would be the Randolph trade. Randolph was more statistically valuable than Channing Frye or James Jones, a "major piece" of the previous year at 24/13. So that would be a deal we made. Other than that? Yeah, we basically stood pat.
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08-05-2008, 05:27 PM
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Re: The Value Of Standing Pat
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The only exception to that would be the Randolph trade.
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Randolph was more important than Greg Oden? No. Thus, the draft was more important than the deal. Ergo, we stood pat.
I think the logic is completely flawed. All the draft day trading is in no way "standing pat." Pritchard had to very, very active to get Aldridge, Roy, Rodriguez and Bayless...in other words, our entire core other than Oden. That's not standing pat. That's being extremely active.
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08-05-2008, 05:30 PM
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Re: The Value Of Standing Pat
I agree that we need to stand pat. Last off-season we didn't -- but we did what we needed to do.
I think the cake is in the oven now, and that we should concentrate on developing and re-signing our guys.
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08-05-2008, 05:35 PM
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Re: The Value Of Standing Pat
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Originally Posted by Minstrel
Randolph was more important than Greg Oden? No. Thus, the draft was more important than the deal. Ergo, we stood pat.
I think the logic is completely flawed. All the draft day trading is in no way "standing pat." Pritchard had to very, very active to get Aldridge, Roy, Rodriguez and Bayless...in other words, our entire core other than Oden. That's not standing pat. That's being extremely active.
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I understand your logic, and it's a good argument. In my mind, the term "standing pat" probably means not disrupting (trading) any of the core talent........which some had thought KP might end up doing.
Nonetheless, he certainly hasn't stood pat "assembling" this core talent.
Cheers.
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