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**STOMP** · 08-26-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by P to the Wee

Well Tech9 does say that the Bulls are trying to talk the Blazers into taking Ben Gordon so it would be a possibility.

you've got a whole board of diehards telling you these "trades" don't make sense. Portland doesn't need guards at all. If they have any needs it's at SF. Gordon's impending Free Agency and reported expectations of max type dollars make him seem completely unlikely.

Sorry but Tech9's claims relayed here don't pass the sniff test.

STOMP

chairman · 08-26-2008, 07:54 PM

All this Tech dude did was take another existing rumour and switched the trading partner to make it sound legit. It is absurd. I suppose if KP really believed Rudy was a SF then it would make SOME sense, but Rudy is not a SF in the NBA.

BG7 · 08-26-2008, 07:58 PM

Fernandez is 6'6". He could easily play both the 2/3 positions. I think most shooting guards, who are big enough, easily are able to slide over to small forward. I think Rudy falls into that category.

And Kirk Hinrich was awful last year. It was unbelievable how bad he was. He was also, one of the worst players in the clutch in the NBA last year, (yet Ben Gordon, who I believe was #5 in clutch scoring, and #6 in super clutch scoring is the guy who gets knocked for not being clutch anymore...just because he can't be superman all the time, but just some of the time). I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but I think Hinrich's scoring efficiency in the clutch was around 13% and around 7% during the super clutch.

But if you get the 2006-2007 Hinrich, it's an absolute steal of a trade for you guys. And Gordon would be an absolute steal in this trade for you guys as well, although he doesn't make too much sense anymore with Bayless looking strong.

**P to the Wee** · 08-26-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by STOMP

you've got a whole board of diehards telling you these "trades" don't make sense. Portland doesn't need guards at all. If they have any needs it's at SF. Gordon's impending Free Agency and reported expectations of max type dollars make him seem completely unlikely.

Sorry but Tech9's claims relayed here don't pass the sniff test.

STOMP

Well the boards don't make the trades, do they

I guess every GM has to screw up on a trade at some point in their career, but maybe KP has another move up his sleeve.

**P to the Wee** · 08-26-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chairman

All this Tech dude did was take another existing rumour and switched the trading partner to make it sound legit. It is absurd. I suppose if KP really believed Rudy was a SF then it would make SOME sense, but Rudy is not a SF in the NBA.

That would probably mean that the Blazers are shopping Outlaw

**nikolokolus** · 08-26-2008, 08:08 PM

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That would probably mean that the Blazers are shopping Outlaw

Frankly I wouldn't be completely surprised, but I would have to think management has something up their sleeves regarding the small forward spot; with the departure of James Jones, and the supposed departure of Outlaw we'd be asking a very green rookie (Nicolas Batum) to provide substantial minutes backing up Martell Webster and this leaves the team completely exposed should somebody go down with an injury.

I guess we'll all just have to wait and see what happens, but for now this trade sounds pretty iffy, and doesn't seem to make a whole helluva lot of sense from Portland's perspective.

**mgb** · 08-26-2008, 08:08 PM

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Replacing Joel: You do this with Aldridge and Frye. Frye showed last year when Joel went down that he can put up some decent numbers.

You can do that short term, not long term especially without knowing how long Oden will be able to stay on the floor. Last year when Joel went out there was a big drop on D. Anyone could go inside on us.

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Let's also remember a few things. Joel does not want to be a back up to Oden, which Nate has already said he is going to be. Portland is also building for the future. Losing Joel may hurt a bit this season, but not in the long run.

Really? That's news to me. From everything I've heard Joel is more than happy to play as the coach asks him including backing up Oden. He's a team player. Do you by chance have a link to him saying anything about not wanting to backup Oden?

**STOMP** · 08-26-2008, 08:10 PM

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Well the boards don't make the trades, do they

I guess every GM has to screw up on a trade at some point in their career, but maybe KP has another move up his sleeve.

that might be possible, but why blow up a club with this sort of potential and positioned as well as they are cap space wise for Ben Gordon?

the other possibility is maybe your guy is just relaying the smoke he's had blown up his backside? Has Tech9 ever been wrong about his relayed info? Is there some sort of reason we should be taking this guy's word without question?

there is no doubt that GM's put all sorts of names into conversations with each other... does that mean that most every guy in the league is constantly on the block?

STOMP

Tortimer · 08-26-2008, 08:10 PM

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That would probably mean that the Blazers are shopping Outlaw

I really don't think the Blazers are shopping Outlaw. Also usually if you hear a trade rumor there is no way the trade happens. I think both of the rumors with Memphis and the Bulls are just rumors from interest the Blazers had earlier before the drafting of Bayless and Rudy signing.

**P to the Wee** · 08-26-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by STOMP

that might be possible, but why blow up a club with this sort of potential and positioned as well as they are cap space wise for Ben Gordon?

the other possibility is maybe your guy is just relaying the smoke he's had blown up his backside? Has Tech9 ever been wrong about his relayed info? Is there some sort of reason we should be taking this guy's word without question?

there is no doubt that GM's put all sorts of names into conversations with each other... does that mean that most every guy in the league is constantly on the block?

STOMP

Well maybe not for Ben Gordon, but I would prefer it being Ben than Kirk

Tech has reported a ton of stuff before it's happened. He doesn't report much, but when he does report, it is accurate. The one trade that he has reported that may not happen is the Nocioni/Simmons for Brad Miller.

**STOMP** · 08-26-2008, 08:20 PM

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I really don't think the Blazers are shopping Outlaw. Also usually if you hear a trade rumor there is no way the trade happens. I think both of the rumors with Memphis and the Bulls are just rumors from interest the Blazers had earlier before the drafting of Bayless and Rudy signing.

the source of most rumors is the agents trying to drum up some attention/interest in their client.

STOMP

chairman · 08-26-2008, 08:21 PM

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but maybe KP has another move up his sleeve.

He always as another move up his sleeve. That goes without saying. It will be interesting to see how big Rudy really is. Hoopshype has him listed at 6'5" 185. That is fine for a FEW minutes at the end of a game at SF. But he is not what I would call a solid 6'5. I see him closer to playing Kirks position than Travis' in limited time.

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