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Old 08-28-2003, 11:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Do basketball Players really deserve millions of dollars?

Do basketball players really deserve a million dollars? I mean these guys get paid all this money to do what? Put a ball through the hoop! Not too hard. Yea so you practice and train to run up and down the court with out injuring yourself, but putting a ball through the hoop isn't a big skill comapred to putting a house together or hard labor. These players sign big contracts and then don't bring it to the house the year after because really why should they, they have their money and things they get to do now. My 1 year old cousin can put a ball through his tiny hoop how come he can't collect? Why can't we all collect? what about giving the fans a couple of dollars at the games for watching these million dollar puds. I mean don't we deserve something? We spend our money on the games and help supprt these millionares, but really what are we getting out of it? Entertainment? Go to the gym and watch the game, people are doing the same thing, let's pay them. I believe the leauge, if they are giving contracts like that out should give fans a chance to train and try to make the cut. Why must a person who is tall and can put the ball in the hoop be anymore different then us? There are people on the street who can take some nba players back to school, something that most players never really finish. What is your opinion on the contracts and money that these athletes are making?
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Old 08-28-2003, 11:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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one argument that can be made is this:
look at the top 3-4 hundred business men in the world. they are making WAY more than any of these basketball players. So, if you think about it, these nba players are the top 300 in the world at what they do. but they still make a lot less than the top 300 business men in the world. heck, paul allen is probably worth more than all the nba players put together.

having said that, the thing that i don't like about the players making all that money is that they seem to have little respect, and a lot of them act like complete idiots.
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2 things...

On the business end, an employee is supposed to produce about 10 times their wage. Lets say "X" player is getting 5 million a year. He should be able to produce about 50 million in gross revenue for his team. I would say the league is giving the players their worth. If we were to talk about the late 80's and early 90's, players weren't even given that percentage.

On the second note... The negative side of this would be that kids are leaving college early because they aren't getting paid in college. They are niave to the world and can make many mistakes. They got their check, and most use to live very poorly, and now have no idea how to spend it. If college would allow the players some of the revenue, then I would think the kids would rather play there first. Okay maybe the NCAA should allow players to take checks from companies like Nike for endorsements.
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On the business end, an employee is supposed to produce about 10 times their wage. Lets say "X" player is getting 5 million a year. He should be able to produce about 50 million in gross revenue for his team. I would say the league is giving the players their worth. If we were to talk about the late 80's and early 90's, players weren't even given that percentage.

On the second note... The negative side of this would be that kids are leaving college early because they aren't getting paid in college. They are niave to the world and can make many mistakes. They got their check, and most use to live very poorly, and now have no idea how to spend it. If college would allow the players some of the revenue, then I would think the kids would rather play there first. Okay maybe the NCAA should allow players to take checks from companies like Nike for endorsements.
i would be so incredibly dissapointed and upset if college players are ever allowed to take endorsement money or any type of pay.
i love watching college sports because all the players are playing with the hunger and desire to make it further in their careers and because they just love the game. if you start to pay them, it will be more and more like the pro games. then we would all be sitting here mad that the players aren't putting out enough effort, just like we talk about the pros.
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yes, as long as you're willing to pay $100 to go see them, buy leaguepass, buy their jerseys, shoes, favorite sandwich spread, etc... they earn every penny...

compare how many people could do your job as well as you to how many could do theirs as well as them...

they're certainly as deserving as movie and tv stars, perhaps more so...
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yes, as long as you're willing to pay $100 to go see them, buy leaguepass, buy their jerseys, shoes, favorite sandwich spread, etc... they earn every penny...

compare how many people could do your job as well as you to how many could do theirs as well as them...

they're certainly as deserving as movie and tv stars, perhaps more so...
So with that being said my new line of tee shirts and mugs will be hitting the stores soon. I expect everyone to pick up a HOWIE mug and/or jersey. I haven't got my shoe deal yet, but Hush Puppies might be interested. I'm still out to lunch on Miracle Whip or Mayo! I'll keep you updated!
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I don't know if they deserve it all the money they get, but if you don't like it Boycott it. Just remember these guys can only play for so many years. And they spend money like it runs like water. There is no doubt in my mind that a couple of players playing today will be broke and have over 10 kids, when all is said and done. I nominate Sean Kemp and Antoine Walker. Not that I want that to happen to them.
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I don't know if they deserve it all the money they get, but if you don't like it Boycott it. Just remember these guys can only play for so many years. And they spend money like it runs like water. There is no doubt in my mind that a couple of players playing today will be broke and have over 10 kids, when all is said and done. I nominate Sean Kemp and Antoine Walker. Not that I want that to happen to them.
Yup yup, it's so sad that they don't have been control over themselves and their funds. I can understand the 1000 dollar charity dinner plates, but the 5 super cars?

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So with that being said my new line of tee shirts and mugs will be hitting the stores soon. I expect everyone to pick up a HOWIE mug and/or jersey. I haven't got my shoe deal yet, but Hush Puppies might be interested. I'm still out to lunch on Miracle Whip or Mayo! I'll keep you updated!
LOL!!!! I love it!!!! I was interested in starting a magnifier shirt company.... What do you think?
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Do basketball players really deserve a million dollars? I mean these guys get paid all this money to do what? Put a ball through the hoop! Not too hard. Yea so you practice and train to run up and down the court with out injuring yourself, but putting a ball through the hoop isn't a big skill comapred to putting a house together or hard labor. These players sign big contracts and then don't bring it to the house the year after because really why should they, they have their money and things they get to do now. My 1 year old cousin can put a ball through his tiny hoop how come he can't collect? Why can't we all collect? what about giving the fans a couple of dollars at the games for watching these million dollar puds. I mean don't we deserve something? We spend our money on the games and help supprt these millionares, but really what are we getting out of it? Entertainment? Go to the gym and watch the game, people are doing the same thing, let's pay them. I believe the leauge, if they are giving contracts like that out should give fans a chance to train and try to make the cut. Why must a person who is tall and can put the ball in the hoop be anymore different then us? There are people on the street who can take some nba players back to school, something that most players never really finish. What is your opinion on the contracts and money that these athletes are making?
Do the math on two nights of selling out a stadium. That coupled with the fact that they can use their status to sell anything from athletic apparel to nutella, means that they should be making millions of dollars.


However they should not have guaranteed contracts...........

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LOL!!!! I love it!!!! I was interested in starting a magnifier shirt company.... What do you think?
I'll take two!
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However they should not have guaranteed contracts...........
I do not agree with that. I do not make anywhere near what they make, but I have contract that garantees me a minimum for three years, and If I do not get a certain promotion within that time frame, I will get a balloon payment at the end. I worked hard to get where I am and would not have taken a job with such a risky company as the one I choose, if they were not going to take care of me in the future.

On the other hand, I think that if a team does not play a player for 10 or more games during the year, their contract shouild not count against the luxery tax. That would help teams with injured players like like grant hill, and it would also give teams that take a risk on a player a little more wiggle room.

ps. I had to take less money to get the guaranteed contract, but it alows me some security. Everything has tradeoffs.
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No one deserves to make millions of dollars. I do think sports athletes should get paid more than the average salary because of the high demand/low supply nature of their business, but these guys get way too much. Guys who sit on the bench can make $500,000 a year. That's a joke.
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Emotionally, of course they don't. No one deserves to even get paid for playing a game that I would play for free.

Logically, of course they do. One of the neat things about a capitalistic society is that the market is determined by demand. I guarantee you that if there were another 1000 people willing to do the same as these guys AND DREW THE SAME FAN SUPPORT but for half the money, these guys would be getting substantially less.
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