cimalee

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Courtside 9/8/03 (post #1)


Segment 1- Show starts , talking about the emails they are getting . It will be announced tomorrow Mike Barrot will be doing the play by play on Blazers tv . John Nash will join the show next segment , alot of rumors going on . Mike Rice said he was at the blazers practice facility today and saw Zach Randolph and Travis Outlaw and he is impressed with Zach as he continues to improve every part of his game .


segment 2 - John Nash joins the show , Nash said not to many deals are on the table right now . Ruben Patterson made a comitment to the blazers when he signed the contract , He would like to trade Ruben but not for the sake of doing it . He says im not for making Ruben Patterson happy , I want to make Paul Allen, Maurice Cheeks and the fans happy . The thing that scares most teams about Ruben is his contract 4 years remaining 24 million dollars nobody wants that . He talked to his agent Dan Fegan and he knows the their is limited want for Ruben around the nba. Ruben cannot afford to do something like this now in this point of his career. He has met with Zach and Ruben and Zach was wrong for what he did and Zach admitted he knew he was wrong . He said Ruben said he wants to play for a good team where he would get time. Talks about working on improving the character that we already have on our team .


segment 3 - Nash still on the show , Talks about luxary tax , Ruben Patterson having the trade kicker in hs contract so if he is traded to another team they would have to pay him 3.7 million straight up . Stephen Jackson said hes a great player , He gave him his first contract in New Jersey, He would not sign Jackson because he feels the blazers have to many players that play the shooting guard small forward position . Talk about Drobnjak says he thinks if we sign him the Sonics would match his contract . Mike Rice talks about Rasheed Wallace are any teams interested in him in the final year of his contract . Nash said yes for one Rasheed is a great player and he would take some teams over the hump , We realize Rasheed is a great defender the coaching staff loves Rasheed , Cheeks is a big supporter of him , We expect Rasheed to have a big year , but unless a star player is offered Rasheed will still be with us .


segment 4 - Caller asks when kobe is a free agent next year should the blazers go after him , Snapper says yes but they wont get him . Mike Rice mentioned some rumored deal that got nixed Blazers & Nets & Memphis & Raptors. Rasheed to New Jersey , Mutumbo to Toronto , Martin To Memphis and Antonio Davis Paul Gasol and Morris Petterson to Portland .


segment 5 - talk about Steve Smith , Email about Travis Outlaw , Rice said he is a fine young man , He still has a 18 - 19 year old body its gonna take about 3 years , but he is a very hard working kid . Rice talks about the blazers practice facility and talks about Zach schooling Antonio Harvey



segment 6 - Rice thinks Ruben if he remains a blazers would be a pain because Qyntel and Zach are going to get more playing time than him , Talk about the Rockets being interested in Ruben , Barrot thinks we should sign Stephen Jackson .


segment 7 - Start of 2nd hour , Michael Ray Richardson joins the show of the Denver Nuggets . Talking about his drug problem and how young players should avoid the wrong crowd . He was drafted 2 spots ahead of Larry Bird, He felt blessed to return to play basketball , Talk about David Stern banning him from the league during that time , and he felt he banned himself from the league . Thinks the Nuggets have some nice young players but feels in the west you need big bodies. Thinks Camby if he would play a full season it would be a plus .


segment 8 - email about Rasheed Wallace , Snapper thinks Rasheed is not a problem , He is a player with great ability , but lives in his own world . Their our days when Rasheed can be a model citizen and do good interviews , He has not heard one player since Rasheed has been here complain about Rasheed , Rasheed wants to be a team player , The blazers should surround him as much as possible because he has been the best blazer since hes been here .

segment 9 - Phone call about Jermaine o Neal , Mike Barrot says Jermaine can not be traded until Dec 15. Snapper thinks nobody can afford to take his contract right now , and he still makes less than Rasheed does .


segment 10 - More talk about the nba luxary tax , Top 15 teams lost 60 million and the teams who dont win are making tons of money . Compares the blazers to the Yankess trying to buy a championship but it worked for the Yankees. The spurs and the lakers , The spurs dont spend to much money on talent to win a championship . Talk about football contracts and if Ruben would have made a statement that he wanted to leave in football his contract could be terminated .


segment 11 - Mike Barrot talks about having his tonsils taking out . Talk more about the Luxary tax , Snapper thinks the blazers should pay 2 guys the money and so what the spurs do surround them with hard working guys . The blazers have guys who make the big money and they all want the ball .


segment 12 - How email , listening to John Nash . Portland is prepared to go into the season with the current roster , Snapper thinks the blazers are going to make deals it might not be now but going up into the all star break a deal will happen . Patterson take take away the trade kicker in his contract , the trade kicker was made so the sonics would not match the blazers offer . Snapper and Rice debate on the Miami Heat , Snapper thinks they will be good and Rice does not think so .
Traning camp starts in 3 weeks , Show ends .







Recap by Cimalee



You guys have a blessed week blazer fans even laker fans Peace

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ilPadrino

Great job once again cimalee.

I agree with Rice that if Patterson is not happy about playing time, he could potentially be a real destructive force this season in the locker room, during practices, on team flights, etc. It would be nice if NBA contracts were not guaranteed so we could just cut him and use the money saved on a backup big man and a cheap swing man that doesn't expect much playing time, for depth purposes. Looks like we are probably stuck with him though, at least at the beginning of the season. Maybe some team will get a few injuries at small forward during the first half of the season and might warm up to the idea of trading for Patterson then?

Draco

We are having a very hard time trading Patterson now so if he doesn't do good when the season starts it will be even harder to trade him.

If patterson isn't happy about playing time in the season there isn't much the blazers can do to stop that. They could cut him or try to negotiate a buyout but those seam unlikely. I think if he gets benched for a few games his attitude would improve.

HOWIE

Keep up the great work Cimalee!

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DariusMiles23

But if we bought out his contract or cut him we would still have to pay him and he wouldn't play..... I would rather have him just sit on bench and play when he HAS to.

STOMP

I wonder if that was Kmurph's promised email on Sheed's character to Snapper? Regardless, I think this pretty much settles the tit for tat he and I had last week on whether Sheed has been refered to as the main problem on the Blazers by Snapper (a Blazer insider right Kmurph?) and whether teammates are pointing fingers at him right and left. Seems like Steve wants Wallace to do those interviews though...

STOMP

Kmurph

LOL

Yeah that was my email, I said I would send one.

That re-cap wasn't the entire discourse they had on the subject however.

I will admit, I was a little dissapointed in their replies, not that I expected them to totally trash Sheed on the show. It is not a total surprise to me that Sheed would be a popular player in the lockeroom, he seems to be (around players) an engaging guy. Although, I would still maintain that not every player there likes him. However being "popular" with your teamates and being a negative force are two seperate things. You can be a popular guy, but not good for the team, of which I think Sheed fits. He is, as Jones said our best player, what was also said is that he A) doesn't want the mantle of leadership that comes with it B) Has a Jekyl\Hyde attitude depending upon what day you meet him. You couple that with the fact that he has never worked to improve his game, which Zach in contrast has done EVERY year to date, has a history of losing his cool at inopportune times, and his stubborn refusal to do what is best for the team (whether that is playing in the post where he is MOST efffective, or DEMANDING the ball when the team needs a crucial score). These are all qualities that are in direct conflict to leadership. And he doesn't have to be the
"Rah, Rah" leader type, he could lead by example, IT IS WHAT IS REQUIRED OF GREAT PLAYERS, TO LEAD. But he does not.

They did mention Pippen, who has been the most outspoken in regards to Sheed. They expressed his dissapointment in Sheed refusing to take the mantle of leadership, I felt he was more than just "dissapointed" in Sheed. I think Pip was also annoyed with Sheed's constant childish antics on\off the court & his overall lack of focus on the court.

Regardless, I'll never root for Sheed again. I have watched him melt down and underachieve (and our team along with it) for the last SIX years. I have personally seen enough, IMO we will NEVER win an NBA title with him on our team. I beleive he is the primary reason behind the dark cloud hanging over POR, and that cloud will not lift until he is gone.

I think the guys on CSMN took the view of he is not giving what his status on the team demands him to give. So be it, If you want to say you were right b\c players like him, then you are missing the point as far as I concerned. IMO it isn't whether he is well liked that matters, or gives you 17 & 10 a night, it is the fact that this is the guy who is counted on to be the cornerstone of our franchise, and he is fatally flawed IMO as a player, and in character. And it is these flaws that will inevitably come to bear at the most imopportune times, causing us to lose games\composure as a result. You cannot win a title with your franchise player exhibiting these traits. THAT is the negative influence (cancer) that I am talking about. And it (and our playoff woes) won't change until he is gone.

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antibody

Pip may have been annoyed by Sheed at times but Pip didn't do much himself. The most I heard him do in Portland was moan and groan. You don't say some of the things he did and call yourself a leader for doing so. I'm sure he taught some things to the players as far as X's and O's go but, I think he didn't do a good job as a leader. I really don't have a problem with Sheed. He does good things for the community (rarely get noticed) and is a good family man. I don't fault him for much of what he does. I do wish he would be a better interview because he does appear to be an engaging guy at times. I think it's ridiculous to blame one guy (Sheed) for everything negative regarding the Blazers...it's beyond ludicrous. There are many more players in the hat that have contributed to the negativity within the Blazer organization. Sheed is an easy scapegoat for people.

cimalee

Snapper did say that Pippen was upset with Wallace , but sheed is who he is , we never made Scottie turn into Mj when he came to portland . Sheed is the blazers best player and with the fit players surrouding him this team can win a championship

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Draco

Pip didn't do much himself? I think Pip did an excellent job for an old timer who has lost most his physical ability. Pippen was the only person who could set up an offense very well last year. Pippen wasone of the only player who could have a huge positive impact on the blazers without scoring. How could Pippen not be annoyed when him and Jordan put so much effort and work into basketball during their prime and a gifted player like sheed won't.

I don't think its fair to blame all the problems on Sheed I don't think one player really makes or breaks a team. I don't think Sheed can really be realied on as the main option to win a championship, you really need someone else such as Bonzi or ZBo to step up and be an AllStar. For a second option Sheed is more than adequate.

STOMP

More emphatic opinions being labeled as facts. Just curious, is Wallace just in Vegas at that big man's camp just for the nightlife, or is that a 6'10 imposter there just to trick us fans into thinking he's putting in the work? Since when did you (or any of us) gain true insider access to what he and the other Blazers do in the offseason? I only get blips of insight into what actually goes on outside of the games and figure that theres lots that happens outside of my limited view. I highly doubt that he has just shown up for games without putting in regular offseason work at various camps and with trainers, but thats just a guess on my part.

It's fine by me that you don't like or believe in Wallace, but making up facts and quotes to get you point across is not an effective way to convince folks you're right IMO.

STOMP