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Old 08-24-2009, 05:41 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Not sure what that's supposed to show us, other than John wall is great at pickup basketball......
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:17 PM   #92 (permalink)
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not pickup. go drink your hatorade somewhere else.
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Old 08-25-2009, 01:54 PM   #93 (permalink)
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Pick up? Wowwy wow wow...
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Pick up? Wowwy wow wow...
You can stop with that. Here's a quiz:

Despite the fact that they were in the half court for many of these situations, how many of his shots were contested at the rim?

How many of ANYONE's shots were contested in that footage?

How many of his jumpshots were contested?

How many times did he beat someone off the dribble and they just give up on the play?


Now ask yourself this: How many uncontested looks like those in that footage, is he going to get AT THE RIM, in the half court, in the NBA?

He might get a bunch of uncontested jumpshots, but not that close to the rim....and only because he can't shoot.

That kind of defense is VERY VERY pickup basketball-esque, regardless of the setting, who else was there, and what else was on the line.....so again I ask, what was I supposed to learn from this footage of what looks like a glorified pickup game?

I'm aware that it was not a pickup game....but it might as well have been.
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'OTHER' KENTUCKY FRESHMEN GUARD WALL'S EQUAL
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"Eric (Bledsoe) may be better," Hughley said. "I've seen them both.”

"Eric can change speeds while John goes one speed," he added. "Both will get better at shooting it. It's not that they can't. It's that they've both been able to go by people easily."

Hughley said that Bledsoe is bigger and stronger than Wall and is nearly as explosive, but the key is that Bledsoe is a terrific passer.

"He beat us by himself," Hughley said. "John (Wall) couldn't have done what that boy did."
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Please note in my above post, that I am not knocking John Wall.....though I think his hype is a bit out of control. I'm knocking that footage as evidence of anything significant.
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If what TM posted is remotely true Wall may be battling Bledsoe for PT.
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Update thoughts having seen him play a few games?
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Re: John Wall (UK)

He's the number one pick, there's nothing any player can do to leapfrog him. He's basically a faster more athletic Tyreke Evans in that there's nothing anyone can do to stop him from getting into the lane. He's like Devin Harris, Derrick Rose, Jason Kidd and Tony Parker all rolled into one guy.
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He's certainly the real deal.
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Re: John Wall (UK)

Great player and I think has a higher ceiling than Rose
I still think Derrick Favors might end up the best player from this draft I just really like his game and his potential is even more than Wall
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I did a quick offensive statistical break down on him (up until tonight's game) that I want to share with you guys to see what you think. I should have it up later tonight
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K look forward to seeing it, by the way Fran Franschilla who I usually like his stuff said Wall might be the best college point guard ever...thats a big no no.
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Re: John Wall (UK)

Offensive Statistical Breakdown of John Wall (12/8/2009)

Despite having enormous potential combined with an NBA level skill set already, Wall only averages .89 points per possession, 59th percentile in the country. While that is a pretty decent rating for a freshman, I think it is safe to say that number is surprisingly average to many. However, there is a very good reason why it is low and I will get into that later in the report. So first of all let’s break down Wall’s offensive numbers and trends.

Due to his elite level athleticism and speed, Wall excels in transition, 1.18 points per possession and shoots75% from the field. However, there is some bad mixed with the good when Wall has the ball in transition. Despite being 12 for 17 (70%) he has turned the ball over 27% of the time (9 TO in 33 possessions). This stat is something that will need to come down and likely will as the year progresses, but also can be attributed to John Calipari’s emphasis that his players push the ball up the floor and attack as fast as possible.

Although Wall looks good in transition, his numbers show otherwise in the half court. Wall produces .7 PPP, which puts him in the 34th percentile. The main cause of this is Wall’s poor jump shooting in the half court 20% (4/20). Compare that to his field goal percentage when get to the rim in the half court (56%) you can clearly see where Wall needs to develop his game and take better shots.

In addition, the distance of the jump shot doesn’t change his outlook as a shooter so far. Wall is 14% (1/7) from 17 feet and in and not much better from three point range 23% (3/13). If Wall improves his jump shooting you will see his offensive numbers shoot through the roof.

Another problem early in the year is that Wall is predominately driving to his left (strong hand), especially out of isolations (11 out of 12 times). That isn’t to say his right hand is weak, but rather his left hand is so good, he can get wherever he wants going left. On the next level Wall is going to have to prove that he can attack with his right, because everyone is going to see how good he is going left.

So why is Wall’s points per possession so low, despite him scoring 18 per game and shooting 55% from the field? Take a look at his astounding assist numbers. He is 7th in the nation in total assists (54) and 2nd in the nation in assists per game (7.7). This is what scouts love about Wall. Combine his quickness and athleticism with his handles and vision and he will produce at setting up teammates to score.

Finally, when defenses commit to Wall off the dribble, his teammates are shooting 55% (12/22) off his kick outs.
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He's the real deal. Crazy how Calipari has had Rose, Evans and now Wall in consecutive years.
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